GGG Fans boys call Coto a coward but give their boy a pass vs 168 Ward?

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  1. spopovich

    spopovich Active Member Full Member

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    Thats idealistic imo. [When Golovkin becomes the A side (which I believe he will) I'm sure he'll be picking fights based on their risk/reward ratio and who could blame him. Thats just the way its always been.

    BTW how can you defend Mayweather's shameless opponent selection while criticizing Cotto.
     
  2. Ol' Bub

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  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but "just the way it's always been" isn't good enough, not unless you're one of the federations or the main guy with the belt to match at your weight, so you can manipulate fights

    I don't see how cotto fighting golovkin (who has done as much as anyone can ask of him - he fights in the US, with network backing, fighting anyone who will fight him, and has gained a lot of notoriety because of it) can be a negative for the sport in any way, no matter how idealistic it is

    you can't give a pass to the guy who has "earned his stripes" and sits in the top spot just because he thinks he will get his ass kicked by someone who doesn't have the same leverage to make big fights

    world champion means champion of the world
    wouldn't it be something if some of these fighters who can actually lay legitimate claim to that title, actually defended it?
     
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    This will be Golovkin's "biggest test" at 160...at least until after the fight.
     
  6. spopovich

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    Dude Mayweather is fighting Maidana's ***** ass again and you think that garbage fight is acceptable for a "champion of the world". I can't believe you're calling Cotto a ducker and think Mayweather's fight selection is good.
     
  7. spopovich

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    Yeah. Rubio is a tough SOB. I doubt he gets blasted out as early as GGG's other victims but I still see GGG winning.
     
  8. HoldMyBeer

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    "champion of the world" is a tag cotto covets at MW, even if it is on borrowed time
    for guys like Floyd and pacman, the belts the federations hand out are baby**** (which they are anyway, because 'champion of the world' means exactly that in all sports EXCEPT boxing)

    if 'champion of the world' meant something in boxing, we wouldn't be debating whether golovkin should be 'allowed' to fight cotto, and Floyd - pacman would have been made when it mattered

    what i'm talking about now is idealistic, because for the sport to get any credibility back, it has to operate under one governing body - which is the only way belts can mean something again

    I never actually called cotto a "ducker", but of course that's what he is doing if he doesn't fight golovkin
    I can't believe that you're actually making an excuse for cotto to NOT defend his legit title against the number one challenger...because he might lose!
     
  9. spopovich

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    Na dude you said you were speaking idealistically. I'm in agreement then. I said, in a perfect world Cotto would be fighting GGG next.
     
  10. HoldMyBeer

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    no, you said I was being idealistic
    I said having one belt is being idealistic, because then one federation can make the bouts fighters have earned

    either way, there is no excuse for cotto not fighting golovkin, so stop looking for one
     
  11. Super Hans

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    I like both Cotto and GGG, and think Cotto became THE MAN @ 160, when he beat Martinez, and GGG is first in line to become THE MAN, however in no way to I want to see this fight happen.

    Cotto at this stage of his career should be looking for an escape route, one big fight, likely in the shape of a fight with Canelo.

    His escape route shouldn't be on the stretcher against Golovkin.

    But going off the title, Ward fans call GGG a coward, but give Ward a pass for not going for fights with Kovalev and Stevenson- works both ways.
     
  12. HoldMyBeer

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    :good
     
  13. spopovich

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    :deal This is exactly how I feel
     
  14. Boxer777

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    Ward's got a fight with Goosen in December. He won't fight again in 2014. If he lose the lawsuit, he can probably kiss 2015 goodbye too.

    Ward is slowing destroying his boxing career.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Stevenson wants to fight ward asap, but ward will not respond to his call outs.......................sob ward is a coward, will only fight in his home town with his personal referee, judges, boxing commission, etc.

    Stevenson vs. Ward would be a big fight, the best fight out there for ward, but ward is afraid. Stevenson said he would go down to 168 to fight ward, but ward is still running.