Deontay Wilder - Here are the facts, now answer my question

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iceman71, Aug 16, 2014.


  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    This isn't a bash Wilder thread, nor trolling one. I'm just baffled how little he has been seen by Joe Public. I dont even think he has ever been talked about on ESPN , the biggest news station in the world, in any capacity.
    No one on these boards want to give a realistic reason or theory what is going on with this guy and how his "Team" has handled his career.

    A promoters wet dream is to be able to promote a guy like this.

    1) He's a HEAVYWEIGHT
    2) Hes big (6 foot 6)
    3) likable, sense of humor, always smiling
    4) He is the first American heavyweight in 20 years to MEDAL


    Here are some more facts
    2007 National Golden Gloves Heavyweight Champion
    2007 United States Amateur Heavyweight Champion
    2008 Olympic Heavyweight Bronze Medalist
    #1 rated U.S. Heavyweight
    Undefeated in 31 fights all by KO
    Promoted by Golden Boy Promotions one of the top 2 promotions in the WORLD

    My question is why with such a rare "phenomenon" hasn't he fought (showcased) on National TV??
    There are more channels that air boxing cards in this era than ever. He's never headlined one. And has barley been aired at all. I mean who puts a 24-0 (24 KOs) heavyweight on Fox Deportes or Solo Boxeo? Really? No ESPN? NBC Sports? Fox Sports while he is rising in contention?
    They dont even put him on a PPV undercard. with all the shi.t fights on undercards, wouldnt that ***y it up? You would think but NOPE.
    No stories about him on ESPN, Never been on a talk show, i mean no Jimmy Kimmel? no Late show appearances Golden Boy for the #1 undefeated heavyweight from the U.S. who is getting a shot at the title soon? Not even any national radio sports show. they have done dic.k with this guy. I actually feel bad for the guy at this point. Hes getting ready to fight for the WBC Heavyweight title and Golden Boy has him on an under card on showtime extreme tonight! :lol:

    What is the opposite of promote?

    -suppress
    -defame
    -prevent

    all the above is the answer. thats what they are doing to him
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    past olympic medalists
    Anthony Joshua is all over TV , fighting and on Talk shows...since day 1
    Ray Mercer made his pro debut on a televised undercard of a roberto duran fight and headlined on ESPN coming up about a dozen times
    Lennox Lewis was fighting on PPV undercards and headling shows very early on
    Tyrell Biggs made his pro debut on National TV ABC wide world of sports with the other 1984 Olympians
    Henry Tillman, all over TV
    Riddick Bowe, pro debut on sugar ray leonard undercard
    Deontay Wilder is simply hidden from 90% of the TV audience, no other way to look at it.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    The reason is because any fool can see that he is a train wreck waiting to happen. Knock downs by Harold Scoiners and Dustin Nichols (yes is was), generally looking incompetent and wind milling as what is allegedly his job, and fighting opponents like Scott who are obviously there to fall down does not install confidence in sports writers and big cable networks.

    As for being likable, he used to be, until he developed an ego light years out of proportion to what he has actually accomplished, and beat up a hooker in Vegas. Insulting Mike Tyson (who could climb in the ring and murder him right now) did not win him any fans, and neither did the "call out" video in which he stood there like a short-bus moron wearing a homo***ual looking Mardi Gras mask.

    But hey, apparently you like him...good for you.
     
  4. BigRobNC

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    He did not look good just now against Gavern. If Jason had been in shape that would have been a much rougher fight.
     
  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    apparently youre new to this forum.
    i have bashed him and his opposition since day 1.
    so yes, now even the supporters are seeing how bad he is and how phony his "#1" ranking is.
    So why does golden boy even bother?
    one thing maybe his team has done right is they seemed to have all but squashed the hooker incident. that went away QUICK.
     
  6. LeonardEllerb3

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    He's the white Tye Fields
     
  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    so i'm hearing.
    i dont have showtime extreme
    had i known the bronze bomber was headlining, i would have order a year of it jk
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    :huh

    or is tye fields the black deontay wilder?
     
  9. BigRobNC

    BigRobNC Member Full Member

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    Here's a quick synopsis. Wilder beats a guy with 16 losses because he was fat and out of shape. Gavern quit because he ran out of gas. He was huffing after 2 rounds. He was barely getting hit. He just showed up with old man legs.
     
  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. Wilder's got fragile whiskers, and his handlers know it. He also has very limited boxing ability, so he's virtually certain to be annihilated by anyone with a pulse.

    This is why he's kept off TV. His team wants to fool the dumb fanboys and casuals who think his bogus KO record actually means something!:deal
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    sounds just like what they hoped he would do after giving 5 days notice.
    even though its been 5 months since his last fight. His Giant promotional Team does absoultely nothing to get him a fight up until a week before this card airs? simly baffling.
    he is gonna get a severe beating by Stiverne
    wont be pretty
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    Obviously. Been saying that forever too

    so the next questions are

    1) Does Wilder know how bad he is?

    2) Does he know his promoter Golden Boy has ZERO faith in him, thus fighting on the obscure of the obscure cards?
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, no ****. You and I have probably been the earliest and most consistent critics of this fraud. :deal

    Happily, it won't be long before the ultimate exposure! I frankly can't wait until Wilder faces a live body for the FIRST time in five years - and is, predictably, annihilated.:yep
     
  14. Saintpat

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    For the record, he certainly headlined a card on Fox Sports against Kerston Manswell.

    The rest of the answer is Golden Boy Promotions holds "mega-cards" where often big names or developing contenders are on the undercard. If that's where your promoter puts you and you're being paid well -- this Showtime Extreme fight pays a heck of a lot more than NBC Sports (which, to my knowledge, has no working relationship with Golden Boy) or ESPN2 shows on Friday night.

    So ... economics.

    As far as exposure, being on the undercard of Showtime fights with top names in the headlining position gives him more than an ESPN2 date or some other cable TV show that hardly anyone watches. This particular fight was put together on a few weeks' notice to give him a training camp while Stiverne sits and stalls and to get him back in the ring to knock off some rust.

    He has gotten a lot of exposure. He has been discussed on ESPN during their fight show, but if you're talking SportsCenter, what non-champion do they ever mention? For that matter, below the Mayweather/Pacquiou level, what boxers do they ever mention. I'm not sure they even give the results of Klitschko's Euro-level title fights.

    As for marketing, he has a deal with Everlast that pays him something ... what I couldn't tell you, but 99 percent of all boxers have NO deal with any national company, including boxing equipment companies.

    This is a sport where 1 percent of the boxers make 99 percent of the money ... maybe 5 percent make 95 percent if you want to be generous. So until he has a belt around his waist, he's not going to get the kind of exposure you're talking about.
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    I knew Saintpat would come to his rescue. I believe you know him personally because you have always made excuses for everything he has done. which is fine
    you do answer a lot of questions, but most are just excuses and BS when it comes to the bottom line

    ok, my bad, he has headlined "1" fight instead of none against Kerston Manswell. :lol:

    as far as who else Sports Center talks about boxing wise? My point was he is an Heavyweight from the u.s and Medalist in over 20 years...that trumps "other fighters that dont get any talk" , his warrants it in theory, so i call BS on that. in over 20 years, he is a rarity...he is awful, so they dont mention him
    if you dont honestly think he will get anything less than a brutal beating from Stivernem then i cant take you seriously anymore