Which fighters peaked the highest of all?

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  1. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some fighters like Monzon are steady throughout their career. Others shine brightly, then burn out, like Tyson. Some seem invincible, and then slowly decline, still capable of a flash of greatness now and then.

    We measure a fighters worth by the collective merit of their accomplishments.

    This isn't about that.

    This is about the mountainpeak, not the tedious humdrum of consistency.

    If you had to name a fighter, on a single night, against an unknown, incredibly strong enemy -- and you had to stake your life on his victory.

    Who would it be? Heck, name three, if you can.


    (all matches are within your fighters favorite weightclass, to avoid only seeing heavyweights!)
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Duran - Barkley, Duran - SRL, Favourite weight class would be De Jesus III

    2. Lewis - Ruddock, Rahman II

    3. Ali - Foreman, Frazier II

    4. Jones - Griffin II

    5. SRR -LaMotta VI
     
  3. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lovely picks, though the middleweight Duran of the Barkley fight wouldn't have made mine personally. What if he is to fight Hagler from the Hearns fight? Can he win?

    I'd actually pick the Duran of Dejesus II, if any. Extra perk is that he gets to fight at lightweight.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The reason the Barkley fight stands out for me is that Barkley had every conceivable advantage going into that fight. He'd just knocked out Hearns, he had a 6" height advantage, huge reach advantage, more power, and was 10 years or so younger. Really the only advantages Duran had was experience, defense, the ability to take a punch and something called heart.

    How he didn't slow down with all those terrific body shots he took still mystifies me, much as it does when Ali played rope a dope against Foreman. Both took huge bodyshots and seemly were unaffected, the difference is Duran was fighting a much bigger guy and the flight lasted longer. Duran himself calls it his best win.

    No, I think the Hagler who fought Hearns would be simply too much for Duran. I personally think Duran needed Hagler to fight the style of fight he fought in order to make it competitive for Duran, Hagler in destroy mode would beat Duran, he's just the bigger, stronger fighter.
     
  5. flydog

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    Interesting concept! My 3 as follows:

    Louis - Schmeling II
    Curry - Jones
    RJJ - Griffin II
     
  6. Tonifranz

    Tonifranz Active Member Full Member

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    I would say Mike Tyson in 1988.
     
  7. SgrRyLeonard

    SgrRyLeonard Active Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson -Gavilan II
    Ali - Cleveland Williams
    Benny Leonard - Lew Tendler
     
  8. pablod

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    the hearns who beat duran
    the Chavez who beat taylor and Rosario
    the Tyson who beat berbick
    the foreman who beat frazier
    the curry who beat mcrory
     
  9. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like these.
     
  10. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Some stonkers so far, from the Brittard side:

    Naz - Steve Robinson
    Hatton - Tszyu
    Turpin - Robinson
     
  11. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tyson easily. The Tyson who hit his peak was damn impressive and the fact that he took part in the biggest upset in history speaks to just how invincible he seemed.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you're using a loss to demonstrate someone's peak rather than a win?

    Interesting approach.

    Couldn't you reverse this and say that Douglas peaked the highest of them all because he wasn't expected to win? And he beat a 42-1 odds against. That would be my take on the question.
     
  13. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson's prime was incredible not coincidentally also the last time a boxer was the biggest name in all of American sports. He was bigger than Michael Jordan in he late 80s and every other professional athlete. I doubt the sport ever gets such an attraction again.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True, I'm a little older than Tyson and I remember that era well. What I also remember is that as big as Tyson was, the sport wasn't as big as well I was a kid, then the whole world stopped to watch Ali fight.
     
  15. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier when he beat Ali in the fight of the century 1971....:deal

    That right there in my opinion was the Grand father of all fights, that's why they called it the FOTC, lol...