Hopkins would have Beaten every super six participant not named Ward.

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  1. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bernard a Lt HW anyway.... why we he go down to 168lbs when he's the ticket...
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol at you thinking you're far more intelligent than you actually are and that your lies aren't totally transparent to those not afflicted with your idiocy.

    You bigots are still clearly majorly butt-hurt and bent out of shape about Bernard ''I'll Never Lose To a White Boy'' Hopkins losing to a white boy and we both know it. Six years later you're still crying about the result but you're like definitely not still butt-hurt about it though. lol

    And yes Taylor did win a pair of close decisions over Hopkins a few years earlier. Where was the monumental hissy fit about those loses? Gee, I wonder why the bigots weren't bawling their eyes out about those loses for six plus years. lol

    And there you go harping on about Hopkins' age again. Why don't you remind me what grandpa Hopkins LHW and P4P ranking was when Calzaghe beat him?

    And then remind me of all the much younger and fresher fighters he subsequently went onto beat post Taylor and what his current ranking at LHW is now and how many world titles he holds over six years after the Calzaghe loss? lol

    Bloodied? You mean the little on his nose that was almost identical to the one that opened up in a sparring session with Nathan Cleverly during preparation for the Bika fight 18 months earlier? lol. It's a wonder that was the only mark he had on his face given the amount of times Hopkins head crashed into it during the fight.

    This is just a selection of Hopkins' ''accidental butts'' from four or five rounds of the fight. I guess you must've missed them, huh.

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    And here's two more from Hopkins from the second round, look what he does when Calzaghe gives him a little tap on the thigh by way of retaliation - he pretends like it caught him in the nuts and he immediately cries to the referee and wants to take a time out. lol

    0:34 - 0:54 and then 1:02 mark

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    But let's not turn this into a Calzaghe-Hopkins debate shall we. My point is that your ass is sore about it and there's literally nothing you can say that is going to convince me otherwise. lol
     
  3. Serge

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    Gee, I wonder what you're trying to insinuate here? lol.

    Guillermo Jones and I recall seeing you do the same about Roy Jones once too.
     
  4. Serge

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    Hopkins obviously regarded the division or he wouldn't have been begging Don King to get him a shot at Byron Mitchell's IBF belt when he was the champ.

    8:11 mark

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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Er, no I'm not. I'm being perfectly coherent and what I said is absolutely related to what we were discussing you dopey ****. I accuse you of something, you deny it, then I list a few examples of you doing the thing I've seen you do which lead me to level the accusation at you to illustrate my point and then you turn round and say it's not related to what we were discussing. lol

    And then after that you respond by giving me another demonstration of your double standards regarding one of the things I put forth as an example. lol. I already know exactly what your views are on Golovkin, it's your double standards regarding him and Ward I take issue with.

    Isn't it embarrassing for a grown man like you to keep having to resort to kindergarten tactics to to undermine people's position you're debating with by accusing them of being fanatics of fighters that they're merely fans of. I'm a fan of Golovkin and nothing more. And no I'm not embarrassed about being such.

    Regarding your double standards pertaining to Golovkin.

    Why aren't you expending any energy trying to pressure Ward to move up to 175 when he's pretty much cleaned out his division and Golovkin still has a lot to achieve in his own?

    Why aren't you expending any energy criticizing the fighters who've been ducking Golovkin at 160 if ducking is such a big issue with you? It's not like there haven't been many of them to sink your teeth into or anything. lol

    Why aren't you crapping on Ward for ducking 175 since Kovalev and Stevenson burst onto the scene and started wrecking everything in their wake after previously saying he was ready for anyone at 168-175?

    Why aren't you crapping on Ward for ducking a fight against Adonis Stevenson after Stevenson called him out live on HBO (in Ward's presence) and offered to drop down in weight and go to Ward's backyard?

    Why is it OK for him to say he'll fight anyone from 168-175 and then do an about turn and completely change his mind when Kovalev and Stevenson arrive on the scene but not Golovkin?

    What about Ward's list of excuses for not fighting Bute, Kovalev, and Stevenson? According to him reigning world champions (lineal ones even) aren't worthy opponents or deserving of a shot at him only for him to then go and fight, and try to line up fights, against much less worthy and deserving opponents?

    Why is a MW hype job who has beaten nobody and are by his admission ''only the 2nd or 3rd ranked fighters in their division'' a worthy opponent but lineal LHW champ Stevenson wasn't?

    Why is a MW whose ''biggest win is Daniel Geale'' worthy of a shot at the #2 ranked P4P fighter in the world and champion at the weight above but Stevenson isn't?

    Why is a Bernard Hopkins fan of all people criticizing Golovkin for wanting to ing to fight a smaller opponent who's the reigning lineal champion in his own division?

    Has Golovkin ever called out any fighter from a lower division and requested, expected or demanded them to move up in weight to fight him? Hopkins has done that many times (I'm talking direct call outs) and he's even tried lobby the likes of Larry Merchant to publicly accuse them of being cowards on live TV if they refused.
     
  6. Serge

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    Battyboy? I haven't heard that expression since I was in school. lol

    I think most people would be in agreement that you're a royal idiot. The amount of crap that comes out of your mouth is amazing.

    Did I hear you question Herbie Hide's power the other day?

    Hardest Puncher you've fought?

    “I think Herbie Hide got that department. (Really?) Absolutely. With either hand. A guy like that…look how many guys Herbie has knocked out. That’s an understatement. I mean, guys remember our fight as a mismatch but Herbie Hide was the hardest hitting guy I ever fought, big or small. No question. Herbie Hide.

    Actually, I’m gonna tell you something I never told nobody before…Herbie Hide had me out on my feet. It was instinct. I never went down. But fatigue beat him. And because I had enough chance to maintain my composure. He was somewhat scared and leery that he burned himself out. But Herbie Hide is the hardest hitting guy I ever fought.”

    ''Herbie Hide "You're not going to believe this but I would have to say Herbie Hide .... He hit me and I thought Oh sh#t I can't allow this guy to hit me again because I don't know what I'll see next. Initially I was trying to box him and he was real fast. I said I can't box
    him because he got me beat, so I fought him.''

    --Riddick Bowe
     
  7. jas

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    Yes, Bernard Hopkins called out the likes of Fernando Vargas and winky wright after the morrade hakkar fight

    But he jumped up 2 weight classes to fight the number 1 guy in tarver having officially lost his last 2 fights

    His entire LHW resume is against guys who are bigger
     
  8. Big George

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    Dirrell Yes. Froch, No ! Carlie style is Tailor made for BHOP !
     
  9. HerolGee

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    Hopkins did better than smw, he went up to LHW, from MW. That's better than ruling the super 6.
     
  10. jas

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    I'm positive Hopkins would have beaten froch and would beat him today

    Froch is a come forward fighter. Not great speed. Iron chin yes. Not super quick on his feet.

    Hopkins has a track record of beating those types of fighters

    No brainer for me.
     
  11. Jermain Taylor. Surprisingly, Hopkins has lasted longer at or near the top. Lol. Hopkins and this point, beats him. He also beat him in their previous meetings, in my mind.

    Carl Froch. Too slow to bother the aging fighter. Froch would likely do well in the beginning, but Hopkins would possible figure him out, relatively early and win a wide decision.

    Andre Dirrell. He is fast, and he does have a solid punch. However, the rough tactics of Abraham bothered him. Imagine what Hopkins could get done with that.

    Andre Ward. This would be the toughest fight. In many ways, Hopkins would be fighting a younger version of himself. He'd win, perhaps only based on the fact that he has experience over Ward. A Ward victory wouldn't surprise me, though.

    Arthur Abraham. Arthur would do well in certain moments. In the sense that he would be able to throw more, as Hopkins would preserve himself. However, I think Hopkins marks him up and gets the W.

    Mikkel Kessler. Like I said, Ward is similar to Hopkins. And Ward handled Kessler pretty well.

    Allan Green. Hopkins stops Green. Simple as that.

    Glen Johnson. They've seen what happened between these two.
     
  12. MMJoe

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    :think...yes.
     
  13. bailey

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    Im glad you have found this, as I recall there being mentionings of Hopkins wanting a shot at B Mitchells WBA SMW title and have mentioned this in debates before
     
  14. Jan(DK)

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    If Hopkins wants Froch or Kessler, all he has to do is call - every body knows this.....................

    or he can do as us fighters and fans normally do - talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks.............................................................................................
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  15. Serge

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    Yeah, Hopkins wanted to fight Mitchell back then (my bad, I got mixed up. Mitchell was the WBA champ). Remember Hopkins said he could've fought in three divisions as far back as 2002 during one of his post-fight interviews years later but that he didn't because ''the risk was minimum to going up to fight the big boys and there was more money down at the lower weights.''