Bernard Hopkins vs James Toney: Who Ranks Higher

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  1. DKD

    DKD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Meh!

    Hopkins.

    Toney was the greater natural talent, though. Great as he is, Toney should have achieved a quite a bit more than he has.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Hopkins by two and a half country miles.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Posters who say Toney has a better resume and better win/wins - Tell me who these better wins were against please

    Do people also ignore that Toney has failed tests also?
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Unbeaten Michael Nunn, I rate very highly.

    I also rate the Jirov win up there with Hopkins' win over Tarver and Pavlik.

    He also has McCallum and Reggie Johnson that were good wins.

    Both were beat by a young Jones around the same time, Hopkins still ranks quite a bit above him, but both are greats IMO.
     
  5. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wins over Iran Barkley, Nunn, Holyfied ( Seniors tour), Jirov as well as McCallum are all formidable arguments vs BHOPS resume...
     
  6. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wish they fought
     
  7. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Gutting they missed each other over the last 20 or so years, would have loved to have seen them fight.

    If Toney lived the life like Hopkins and kept his weight down, we'd have possibly seen it happen.
     
  8. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barkley is the only guy on this list that I would give Hopkins a chance of defeating.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Then your opinion is tainted lol Bernard Hopkins is a Phenom a man that defies age defeats the odds. He is head & shoulders above those others
     
  10. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins all day, every day. Toney doesn't get a sniff in this competition.
     
  11. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, Hopkins will rank higher "all time" based on his achievements but Tony will always be known as the greater fighter.
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins is more accomplished but head to head Toney is the better of the 2
     
  13. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You have to say Hopkins ranks higher as he consistently did it at the highest level since his domination of the middle weights. Both are highly skilled boxers and skillwise, are around the same. But natural talent i'd have to give the clear edge to Toney. Hopkins was all about hard work and pure dedication, a perfect example of a sportsman, whereas Toney was the polar opposite. But boy was he skilled, he was one of the best fighting in the pocket.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The weight difference wasn't an issue and wouldn't have stopped them facing off. Hopkins had signed to fight Toney in 2003 and jump up 3 weight divisions to do so. But Don King tried to cut Hopkins guaranteed purse by a million, despite them having already signed a contract agreeing the sum. Hopkins thought he was getting shafted, which with King was probably true, so withdrew.

    Would have been a great fight, real shame it never happened.
     
  15. Scar

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    Hopkins by far and away.