Roman Gonzalez should rank above Andre Ward

LOL Team Chocolatito! :bbb
Its on! The good thing about him is. He's always active/busy fighting! RESPECT

 

He should rank above a lot of fighters. He goes in and destroys his competition.

 

Only Thing I can't be anywhere close to the same page, book or even category is the mention of differences in stoppage wins between ward n gonz. That baffles me when people think that separates fighters abilitIes in the ring.

Most fighters with extremely high ko/tko %'s really boils down to the level of opposition. Having a higher stoppage rate only means you've stopped more fighters which usually comes from fighting far lesser opponent's. Top fighters are rarely stopped. Any fighter with the talent n skills to be considered a top 15/20 talent in the whole sport should have enough skills to make it through 12 rounds, even being outgunned.

For me, That is by far the least skill thst adds or subtracts from a fighters recognized level of talent. But tufted just me

 

Understood, in general terms, except here this isn't that. Gonzalez has been knocking out a high level of opposition.

 

I don't even have ward in my list anymore

Roman number 5

 

Fair enough.
I'll have to admit I don't really know much about anybody under 135.
besides flash and rigo, I know them both inside and out and think both have had great nights and could be great fighters for some years to Come.

I'll have to investigate Gonzalez a little more. I've only seen him fight like 2/3 x tops.
I think he could and would best ali, I just don't think ali is going to be any good once he starts fighting someone who can go even a little bit.

He is so wild and throws so many shots that he will be countered to death pretty soon m
He throws arm punches but even arm punches take their tolls to the body

 

Come November 17th, Ward will pass one year of inactivity and will be "disqualified" from most peoples' P4P list anyway.

I love Roman and have respected him ever since Niida, but the edge still has to go to Ward probably.

 

Ali...Raymi?

Gonzalez vs. Raymi isn't a serious fight; that would be sanctioned murder.

You seem to have maybe taken some light-hearted trolling seriously. (an inherent danger with all running jokes on internet forums)

The stuff about Raymi on here is even more tongue in cheek than all the "Charr would unify heavyweight and rule for years to come if the brothers stopped ducking him!" stuff.

 

Haha, yeah.

The tier system goes:

"Koki Kameda!"
"Charr HW GOAT" *
"Ali Raymi P4P"

* I will say that more than just a few people were actually dead serious about this guy, though. And probably too many weren't serious about Kameda when he actually was highly relevant off his great W over Naito.

 

:rofl you knocked out Staminakills, but he's an intellectual lightweight so we aren't going to raise you on the p4p list.

 

Possibly,
It is hard to sift through troll threads/posts and when some are being serious.
I see nothing in ali, maybe I was taking some people out of context. Hard to determine what's a troll and what's not on here lately.

I won't say ali sucks because no pro fighter sucks but, He sucks when you factor in his win streak and tko streak. They must had found a bunch of very unskilled and very undurable fighters for him to have like 20 smg fights with all tko wins. .

I would love to see gonzalez whoop that ass just for the hell of it.
Agreed that it would be a mismatch. It's very hard to read between the lines with too many posters on here. Oh well, phug it

 

Here is Ali Raymi:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dsPI-ZSZos[/url]

Judge for yourself whether he can beat Gonzalez, there is only one round but I think sufficient evidence as to who would win. :yep

 

Raymi has a pretty good physical resemblance to Giovanni Segura who IMO would be a more realistic matchup for Chocolatito. Really looking forward to Segura/Estrada tomorrow.

 

Klitschok and Pac are clearly ahead of Ward and GGG is right behind him.

 

Golovkin is not too far ahead of where Alvarez was going into the Mayweather fight in terms of what they've proven and whom against. Alvarez nor Golovkin are in the argument for P4P top 10 right now, in my opinion.