Why do you think TMT fighters keep coming up short?

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  1. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You have the Mayweather Jr Brand name which draws a big number of talent(or so it should). The gym is always packed to the brim. These guys are very strong, shredded to bits and clearly physically talented, so why can't they get passed these soft journeymen? Plus to make it worse for a gym that is strict with defense, all of these guys are getting KO'd.

    So what do you think it is?
    Is it that the Mayweathers simply aren't good trainers and got fluky with an independent thinking relative in Jr?

    Is it the gym wars?

    Or do none of them have what it takes, regardless of guidance? plz elaborate on this, what are they missing?
     
  2. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because they are ****.
     
  3. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who did they lose to?
     
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    kovalevtheGoat The Chelyabinsk Machine banned Full Member

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  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    The fighters in TMT are actually quite good, they just need more experience.

    They have everything they need, Floyd as their mentor and 2 world class atg trainers in Mayweather Sr and Roger Mayweather.

    They just need to work harder.

    If Bey beats Vasquez this Saturday, that will be the first step to TMT greatness.
     
  6. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I personally think they are too green and get protected from tough opposition
     
  7. jbuffett84

    jbuffett84 Active Member Full Member

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    Their Top 3 guys (outside of May himself)

    1) Love: brutally KO'd by Medina who was 2-4 in prior 6 bouts

    2) Bey: stopped by Molina. Not a terrible loss but a fight Bey should have won easily by decision.

    3) Jack: KO'd by Edwards, a 34 y/o journeyman.

    Common thread seems to be a lack of chin. They all think they have Mayweather's natural skills but allow themselves to get hit cleanly and KTFO'd.
     
  8. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks

    Someone said TMT is the leading producer of glass

    I think they might be right
     
  9. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another thing I noticed(atleast with Bey and J'leon) is they spam their jabs, but do little of anything else.

    In Bey's case he has very good power, and his jab is very strong, but he also like J'Leon throws next to nothing else and had he, I think vs molina Bey would have won by stoppage and J'leon vs rosado had he kept pushing forward and actually thrown punches would have won that fight clearly(IMO he lost that fight)
     
  10. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    because they haven't got the heart
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Average fighters at best.
     
  12. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They all had the wrong attitude. They thought that they were invincible. They didn't lose a boxing match, they got knocked out and that's what they needed. Now that's out of the way I think Bey and Badou will be better than ever. I still have my doubts on Love. Mayweather Promotions is just getting started but the fights and fighters will improve greatly. Just think, two years ago, all they had was Ishe . It will get better.
     
  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Because they're signed to TMT they're supposed to be good?
     
  14. enfield

    enfield New Member Full Member

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    They are all wannabe gang-bangers who don't have the cerebral ring generalship of Floyd. They party too much, drink too much, and cut corners (I'm talking specifically about you J'leon Love you diuretics cheating glass jawed bum).
     
  15. Nate 2011

    Nate 2011 Active Member Full Member

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    The same reason why GBP fighters were coming up short in the beginning, even if slightly sometimes, because it's the beginning! And especially when it was GBP fighters going up against Top Rank fighters which the last score I got was Top Rank beating GBP 5-major profiled fights to 2.

    The main reasons why TMT fighters are coming up short for the moment besides these guys just being upstarts is mainly because they have to learn truly what it took for Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr., to get where he's at today, "Hard Work, Dedication" and then some. And even after they apply that trade both mentally and physically they have to then learn how to juggle that success with the hatred that they'll be receiving from the hating fans on most threaded sites due to the fact they are fighting for TMT, Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr., just like any well known NBA star player playing for the Miami Heat has to endure because of everybody's despising of Pat Riley. When you're playing for that team in particular you automatically bear the cross of Riley's sin of leaving the New York Knicks the way he did. Same goes for TMT fighters. Just by fighting for TMT alone they're already bearing the cross of Floyd "Money" Mayweather's sins of being successful as a pro for 18-years and counting, being the highest paid athlete in all sports(except for Michael Jordan, who's still ahead of Floyd by several million), being the most hated fighter/athlete by almost everbody's standard and last but not least still being undefeated at 46-0 and with a strong possibility of going 47-0 after September 13 in rematch against Maidana and finishing his career unbeaten altogether.