Why is a loss a death sentence all of a sudden?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sugah Jay, Sep 8, 2014.


  1. Sugah Jay

    Sugah Jay Guest

    alright so most of u guys realize that the sportsmanship of the sport of boxing has gotten really harsh over the years. it seems like a loss on an undefeated record is almost a career ending, fanlosing scenario. when adrien broner lost to maidana EVERYONE went crazy, and now people are calling him ****. when pacquiao got knocked the **** OUT:lol: by marquez everyone was calling him ****. if floyd was to lose people would write "you suck" in sky writing in every city in the world. what's up with that? all of the greatest fighters have either been knocked the **** out or had their asses kicked. this sport is dead
     
  2. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know if there is a quick and easy answer.

    Maybe in the past fighters fought more often and just got back on the horse more quickly, so to speak.
    A fighter is only as good as his last fight after all. But really though, for as long as I can remember fighters have often been written off by many after a loss so it's not really something new.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Modern day boxing doesn't compare to past eras.
     
  4. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because the sport is so easy, records so padded, fighters fight so rarely, and divisions so watered down that if you lose you must really be an overrated hypejob/talentless hack because 95% of modern fighters are guys nobody should lose to.
     
  5. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The more boxing became a business and the less it was a sport the more important it became to retain your zero.

    A loss these days equates to your business taking a huge plunge on the stock market. A bad loss equates to your business going completely bankrupt.
     
  6. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    All reasonable answers so far esp the business/stock side of it and the fighting less often.

    I think other creditable reasons are just that western(ised) culture and society now are so 'quick fix', 'quick buck' etc etc that people are more susceptible to knee-jerk opinion.

    Perhaps more extreme and young voices are heard now since younger people have an internet platform, whereas back in't day they wouldn't have been heard down the pub....?
     
  7. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Being undefeated is WAY OVER-RATED,:deal, id rather watch a fighter like Maidiana who has lost a few times, but has taken on some solid opposition, Froch also, because you know your gonna get.a good fight out of them , unlike some of these guy's who only fight once a year againt some tomato can with a 10-10 record, because they are afraid to lose...
     
  8. grumpy old man

    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You make some good points.
     
  9. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would anyone agree that its a Western or—even more specifically—an American ideology?

    Think of some of the best Japanese boxers: Yaegashi (4 losses), Takayama (7 losses), Inoue (only 7 total fights) but I'd imagine those guys are still very popular.

    Japanese MMA legend, Kazushi Sakuraba has a horrific-looking record of 26-16-1 (2), yet, he still sold out shows even amidst losing streaks. I remember him saying the Japanese didn't care about pretty records.
     
  10. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maidana has a bunch of loses and he gets 2 shots at mayweather, something most people who fight him don't get.

    To me as long as you weren't brutally K.O'd a loss isn't that bad
     
  11. Stefan Johnson

    Stefan Johnson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This thread brings to mind Timothy Bradley winning a controversial split-decision. Tim got the belt and kept his 'o.' But the fans obviously disagreed, and Bradley knew his record would be incomplete without truly beating Pacquiao in fans' eyes. So he re-matched Pac. Props to him. He could've ran away and hid, but he didn't.

    And even tough Bradley lost the rematch in the judges' eyes (who are obviously very corrupt), Bradley gained a lot of respect for wanting the fight. There's no shame in losing to a future Hall-of-Famer, first ballot, warrior such as Pacquiao.
     
  12. jbuffett84

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    Especially when it comes to Mayweather and fighters in his camp, he makes his "0" so important that when anyone associated with him (Broner, Love, Jack) lose fans like to gloat.

    A loss isn't a big deal to Pacquiao, but some of these other guys getting bumped off by journeyman is troubling, especially when so many thought they were over-hyped in the first place.
     
  13. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bingo.

    The "0" is the biggest marketing tool going in the boxing world. To not worship it means to devalue it.
     
  14. EatenByTheWorms

    EatenByTheWorms Active Member Full Member

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    Because many boxing fans are silly young adolescent males, that's why. Reason and analytical thinking do not apply.
     
  15. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    No personal offense but that statement is so ******ed imho. :-( Typical for boxing.

    If the best continually competes against the best everyone will lose every now and then. Just look at tennis. Federer is considered by many to be one of, if not the best ever. Do you know how many times he lost only to always bounce back with a win sooner or later? I bet no one even cares and he himself doesn't even know how many times he lost.
    If Nadal or Djokovic or Murray has a bad performance in one tourney, whatever the reason, they can very well win the next tourney.
    An athlete is as good as he/she proved in all his/her performances. Not just a last performance :patsch.
    Again, no offense, I know this is something typical for boxing.

    Edit.: sorry for going slightly off-topic btw.