byron mitchell? c level fighter//thats like saying look at william joppys face sure he had a abc belt but who the hell is joppy...nobody
Joppy wasn't so bad. I'm not saying he was great, but he was in there with the best of them and I think he is rather underrated really. Not at the moment, but for his career!
hopkins ko'd people you heard of atleast i don't know none of the people calzaghe ko'd//just because you like a fighter don't make them out to be something they are not you have 2 eyes just like me you know calzaghe is not a puncher
just making a point niether are elite fighters when you bust up an elite fighter then you're doing something
i have!!!but i couldnt do it to an elite fighter no way no how..see my point?i'm not underating joe let me make that clear !!!!!but he is what he is a volume fighter not a puncher
Well I don't if that's the only way to decide power though. For example Andrade at SMW isn't elite, but if someone cracked his beard, i'd be throughly impressed!
I'm not saying that Joe is a puncher, but he could punch better in the past. Not a one punch puncher ever, but still a better puncher. Today, well we saw the Lacy fight, a thousand punches and Lacy wasn't out. If Joe has that little more zip that he used to have Lacy would've been out of their in the middle rounds, maybe earlier.
he's not elite but his chin is in a class alone andrade is a tough sob but he hasn't been caught with the right punch at the right time.if i hit a man who's stationary he might take it but if i hit him with the same punch as a counter punch it'll have twice the effect
Agreed, and Andrade is allows coming forward, so its amazing that no body has caught him with a counter of this quality! Especially with his terrible defense!