All Aboard the Jermaine Taylor Express

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  1. Trav10

    Trav10 Member Full Member

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    My view is that same as the expert commentator and media reports following the fight. Soliman hit Taylor with more good punches over the first 6 rounds.

    Soliman was beaten fair and square, if by fair and square you mean "whilst carrying an obvious injury".
     
  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He wasn't carrying an injury he even admitted that Taylor caused the injury. Stop making excuses Soliman was beaten fair & square by a completely shot fighter.

    Imagine what Golovkin would have done to Soliman if Soliman would of had the guts to fight him :lol:
     
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    These were my thoughts as I watched:

    Round 1 no one threw many punches or connected on them. They were just feeling each other out. It would be unfair to give it to either fighter. Even.

    Round 2 still no one landed many, but this time Soliman was the better of the two. Round=Soliman.

    Round 3 Taylor started to look frazzled and bamboozled by Sam. Round=Soliman.

    Round 4 Soliman dominated. Round=Soliman.

    Round 5- Taylor got a lot more active, both fighters landed some punches but Sam landed the better ones. Round=Soliman.

    Round 6- Taylor looked better. Sam looked shaky. Taylor got him good a couple of times. Round=Taylor.

    4-1 to Soliman after 6 rounds (or 5-2, since they both get points for an uneventful round 1). Which is 59-56, the commentator Teddy had it right.
     
  4. Trav10

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    Yep, because Sammy has the class to give Taylor all the credit. This does not mean Taylor still would have won, had Sam not had the injury.

    Yes, again, if you mean he was beaten whilst carrying an injury. If that's fair and square then yes I agree.

    You cannot deny that Soliman was injured. Denying that is like believing in a flat earth.
     
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    Also, Teddy’s final scores were very close to the scores of the 3 official judges.

    Soliman was officially down in Rds 7, 8, 9 and 11 whilst severely hobbled and still only lost by 5, 6 and 7 points.

    If you want to say that Soliman didn’t at least win the first half of the fight, then you’re saying that the 3 official judges plus commentator Teddy all got it horribly wrong.
     
  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    You can still make a case that Soliman was faking the injury.
    So are you saying Soliman was just trying to be classy? Do you think that he believes if he wasn't injured he would have won the fight?

    There was no talk before the fight that Soliman was carrying an injury, so I repeat STOP MAKING EXCUSES Soliman was beaten to a pulp by a shot to **** fighter with neurological damage. It was a cherry pick gone horribly wrong :lol:
     
  7. Trav10

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    Yep. Soliman was winning the fight (according to all the judges and the commentator, as I have established in previous posts).

    And he just decided to fake an injury and throw the fight, and miss the chance to keep defending his belt against the likes of Quillin, N'Dam or GGG.

    Makes perfect sense.

    Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?

    Of course he would believe that if he wasnt injured he would have won. Anyone can see that is true- as I established in previous posts, based on the judges scorecards he was winning (and probably winning easily) through rounds 1-6. He lost the fight by 5-7 points after getting knocked down 4 times in the 2nd half of the fight!

    And anyone who has watched Sam over his career knows that he gets better throughout a fight, as he has good stamina and his style frustrates his opponents more and more as the opponents get tired. And you think Taylor wouldve somehow not only lasted 12 rounds but turned the result around? Based on what?

    He was being classy straight after the fight because he wanted to give Taylor all the credit.

    What, you think fighters are going to tell the public (and their opponent) that they have an injury?

    Really?

    Besides, regardless of how bad the injury was before the fight (not that bad, according to his physio), he clearly exacerbated it in the fight. You don't go from moving freely in rounds 3 and 4, to barely being able to carry your weight in rounds 7 and 8, without having an injury in that time.
     
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    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe if Soliman had taken his trusty PEDS he may have won the fight :lol:
    He was annihilated by a shot inactive neurologically damaged Jermaine Taylor.

    To me the injury didn't look legit, he could tell Taylor was starting to come on strong and he figured if he fakes an injury it doesn't make the loss look as bad and he may be able to milk another pay day somewhere.
     
  9. Trav10

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    You've already said that this is your view. Based on what?

    Sam fights 12 rounds nearly every time he fights and has always been one of the fittest boxers going around. He lost one round (round 6) and you think he was so worried that Taylor- who has fought 9 rounds total in the past 2 years- was going to run down his lead over the last 6 rounds?

    Yep, makes perfect sense again :good
     
  10. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Until I here legit results of scans I maintain he was faking the injury. It's easy for Soliman to fight 12 rounds against bums (especially when he is on the juice), but when he steps up to stronger hard hitting guys like Taylor he folds like a napkin.
     
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    You can try :lol:

    But nobody but a ****** like yourself is going to believe it :-(
     
  12. TCboxa

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    These Soliman fans are quiet an odd sort, claiming Soliman won the first 6 rounds prior to hurting his knee, but then go on to say he won 2 rounds, then say the commentators said he was ahead by 3 points which would mean he won 3 of 6 rounds. I don't think they even realize the dribble they are posting, either that or they are hopeless when it comes to basic math.

    Solimans knee must not have been to bad, a knee injury is something serious, it can ruin your career and have you in recovery for a long time, never being the same as it was. So either it wasn't that bad or Sam and his people are that dumb that they allowed him to continue at the risk of making the injury worse, doing more damage and ending his career in the process.

    At the end of the day, he lost, get over it girls. He didn't even have one successful defense, didn't hold onto it for very long just as i predicted and he will never become world champion again. Last but least, there can be no doubt what so ever as to why he did not fight GGG after his speech claiming the only fight he wants is GGG v Geale winner, it was all a con job just like Soliman. Now time to follow some real boxers ladys.
     
  13. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are so bias. Soliman won 2 rounds from the first 6. People who don't follow either boxer agree.

    You get the picture you one eyed Midget living in the land of the blind! :nono
     
  14. Trav10

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    Who said Soliman won every round from 1-6?

    Show me who said that and where.

    Maybe the problem is with your comprehension.

    No one said he won every round from 1-6, we said he was in front after 6 rounds and only would have fallen behind on the scorecards after he was clearly hobbled from round 7 on.

    Internet forum dwellers "DubbleChin", "IntentionalButt" and "PinoyProdigy" can disagree all they like.

    I'll take what I saw, and the views of judges Fred Steinwinder III, Alfredo Polanco, David Taranto and commentator Teddy Atlas.

    I suppose Steinwinder, Polanco, Taranto and Atlas must be blind too then.

    I'm in good company.

    Perhaps we can all meet up and visit the eye specialist together, whilst you and your forum buddies go and have a day out on the town.
     
  15. Trav10

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    Let me tell you who just got folded like a napkin.

    You and TCBoxa :good