Alan Minter v Mark Kaylor

I go with what others have said Minter was a notch above Kaylor,both were similar in that they could go drop out of boxing mode and want to engage in a slugfest.
Whichever way it would be I 'd take Minter in a second half of the fight stoppage.

 

I remember Lloyd & his interviews "that is all I have to say"

Aggressive fighter & a banger...surprised he had so many losses...probably because he spent so much time on the right hand side of the bill.

Minter v Kaylor - Minter by a tko. Minter was a genuine world class mW, was a level above Kaylor as both an amateur & pro. Kaylor could never get above Euro level (4 EBU challenges 0-4) despite the backing of Lawless, Duff and the Cartel.

Minter was a class southpaw, tall, good boxer, good chin (only floored by Sibson & questionably against Vito) and a good banger. Won the EBU title in Italy TWICE with genuine knockouts.

People talk about Minter's cuts but Kaylor could bleed too - does anyone remember the horrific cut Kaylor suffered against Dwight Walker at York Hall where Harry Gibbs scandalously let the fight continue?

I figure Minter-Kaylor would start off as a boxing match and would increase in tempo and ferocity until Minter stops Kaylor in 7 or 8 good value rounds.

Nice thread...

 

Minter had too much class for Kaylor. Providing he does n't get cut,Alan takes the West Ham man apart and stops him by the middle of the fight.

Kaylor would give it a go. Gutsy fighter

 

Minter had the ever present Bugbear of possible cuts to contend with, but when he boxed controlled he could Box and Punch at the right moments and was hard to beat, His two fights with the wild and Dangerous Gretian Tonna Exampled this...

Mark Kaylor on the other Hand seemed to let the crowd effect him to a degree, in that he seemed to always want to put a show on for them... Too Soon, before the opposition was demorilised, He got into troube with Christie, Gumbs, Drayton of course... I think the same would be true here, Minter wins the Boxing Match, and if Kaylor tries to Pressure Minter out of hit... He's backing the wrong horse.. I think somewhere along the way Kaylor trips over a Big Shot like he was prone too, But Minter is not Christie or Gumbs... When Brave Kaylor tries to take the Play away.. Minter, Finishes the Job.. I suspect circa 5th...

 

In fairness to Kaylor his two Euro middle shots came against fighters in Sibson and Graham that were legit top ten world level fighters, and clearly above the quality of fighters who would see a Euro belt as a career ceiling.Those two fights were clearly world class contests imo.

i think Kaylor was above that sort of Euro level in the mid-80s as a middle(he was more in that bottom top ten borderline world level bracket of talent with guys like Scypion, DeWitt, Simms Olajide etc), but not once he moved up in weight later in the decade.He was ordinary as a 168 and 175 fighter.


Tough era in the 80s for Euro middles, generally you would need to fight world class fighters when going for the EBU title and not some chancer like Howard Eastman or Robert McCracken.Minter early in the decade, then Sibson, Graham, Kalambay, Kalule and Benn\Watson towards the end of the decade.Then you had fighters like Kaylor and Acaries who were good enough to be world title challengers too, but unlikely to get past some of those others.

 

Late 70s Kevin Finnegan was a class act.Frankie Lucas was a loose cannon and a fight against Kaylor would have been worth watching.

 

Lora...thanks for the reply fella. If I may say you make some good points...as always! Kaylor was clearly not the same at '68 & '75.

I agree with you re Graham but not so sure about Sibbo by late '84. Like a number of others who fought MMH, I don't think was the same fighter post Hagler - I don't think he ever fully regained his confidence or sharpness except for the Collins fight in AC - but Collins was unproven.

You are right there were lots of world class Euro MWs in the 80s. I'm not sure if I would rate Kaylor on the level of the names you mention though, with the possible exception of Acaries. I don't really see him on the level of a Scypion either, I couldn't really see Kaylor hanging with a Parker or definitely not a Hamsho, I personally would rate McCracken & especially Eastman above Kaylor too.

 

Yeah, Sibson had lost something by then, but he was still a fine fighter imo.

Eastman was one of my favourites-a real character-, but i always thought he was pretty rubbish tbh.benefited from a terribly weak era for Euro middleweights and struggled badly at times even then, going tooth and nail with guys like Tatyevosyan.

bad balance, sloth slow, poor skills, no workrate etc, just durable, a decent dig and a nice uppercut. Much easier to get world title fights in that period if you're a halfway competent middle based in Europe.Even guys like Hakkar managed it:yep Kaylor looks like Arguello next to eastman.

The 80s was the last good era for Euro middles imo.By the mid 90s it seemed much of the talent had migrated to 168.

Don't get me wrong though, i'm not trying to argue Kaylor was something special, i just see him as being a bit unlucky.He's better than any of the Brits that have had middle shots recently.

 

Agree with pretty much all you say lora, especially about the migration to 168.

Interesting that you mention Eastman, I remember Howard from the amateur days. London ABAs etc (he lost to my mate Tim Taylor from Repton twice). Howard always came across as a gent although clearly very single-minded and mentally tough. I remember at a show a youngish coach from another club really being in Howard's face giving it the big one, and Howard was as cool as a cucumber, calm, leaning against the wall - he didn't bat an eyelid - came across as an absolute stone cold killer - completely un-nerved the other guy...it was like a scene from a film - very impressive I must say.