When exactly was Mike Tyson's prime?

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  1. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feeling enlightened just reading this thread :patsch
     
  2. boxershorts99

    boxershorts99 Integrity Enforcement Full Member

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    You are one original funny girl , what size bra do you wear again ? Funny how you never could solve the math problem that involved your fetish in experimentation of how many fingers you could fit inside any and all random dog's dookie chutes within your reach.

    Most girls your age play w Barbie's , some are tom boys and might play with hot wheels or Mike Tyson's PUNCH OUT on the original NES . Maybe these are options you should consider entertaining because the whole dog molestation thing and you having IRON MIKE #1 on your ATG list is not working out for you .
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    See, I've got it trained to follow me around. Now the trick will be to stop it yapping, as I don't believe its a boxer dog at all, rather a **** sue, and they yap as opposed to bark.

    LMAO.
     
  4. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    What you are simply refusing to accept or even admit is this was not peculiar to the Douglas fight.

    This lax attitude to training and lifestyle started with the departure of Rooney, but as long as Tyson was knocking over stiffs and bums like Bruno, and Williams his fanboys fell for it. If that pathetic run had been allowed to continue with him being fed garbage like Stewart and Tillman, after Williams, then the 1st Ruddock fight, culminating in the Douglas fight on the day of the Rudduck rematch instead of that fight, he would still have lost IMO, but his blind fanboys would be even more insufferable than they already are, by claiming he was unstoppable from 86 - 92.
     
  5. The Damn Guy

    The Damn Guy Jam Tight Full Member

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    ?? his prime was apparently when he was young..
    So it was When he got KO'd by the bum Douglas then?!!!
    Tyson was unbeatable!! LOOOLOLOL
     
  6. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wladmir Klitscko DOB: 25/03/1976
    Fought Purrity: 12/05/1998
    Age when knocked the **** out: 22
    Ross Purrity: 12 Losses at the time of facing Wladmir

    Keep that in mind
     
  7. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The "prime fighter" hasn't objective definition.
    It's a ****ing half-truth. I don't like the half-truth.
    Was Douglas a bum ? I doubt it, this opinion is far away from the
    objectivity.
    -Douglas was an UNDISPUTED heavyweight world champion.
    Holmes wasn't.
    wladimir klitschko wasn't.
     
  8. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    -Holmes's prime isn't a objective thing.
    -Spinks wasn't light-heavyweight in 1988.
    (Only Tyson could knock Holmes and Spinks out)
    Obviously only Tyson beat Spinks.
    Spinks beat the unbeaten Holmes.
    This win is better than anything from wladimir klitschko
    or Lennox Lewis.
    -Other top wins by Tyson from his full carrier.
    Ferguson (who beat a young Douglas)
    Tilis
    Green :ranked fighter( ranked fighter= ranked by bodies(WBA and/or ,WBC and or IBF)
    M. Frazier (ranked fighter)
    Ribalta: (ranked fighter)
    Ratliff : (I think he was cruiserweight champion)
    Berbick: reigning champion
    Smith :reigning champion
    Thomas: He was world champion
    Tucker: reigning champion
    Biggs: 1984 Olympic champion (He beat Lewis in amateur)
    Holmes: ATG (he was 38 years old agains Tyson)
    Tubbs.He was world champion
    Spinks: ATG
    Bruno:future champion
    C. Williams
    Tillman:I think he was olympic champion.
    A. Stewart
    Ruddock:Tyson beat him two times. Tyson was the first who beat
    a muscular version Ruddock.
    Bruno:reigning champion
    Seldon:reigning champion
    Botha
    Savarese
    Nielsen: He was IBC heavyweight champion

    (Honorable mention: Originally Tyson beat Golota)

    Who was actually great opponent in w. klitschko's and Lewis' COMBINED carrier? Leapai, featherfisted wach,cancer survivor pianeta,41 years old
    mercer,40 years old weaver,fat tua,37 years old holyfield,
    40 years old thompson,39 years old mormeck,fat sam peter
    37 years old sanders,phil jackson,out of shape botha,chagaev
    maybe with hepathitis-b etc.,glass-chinned grant,bum-beater briggs,glass-chinned coward haye by points(an old carl thompson destroyed
    this pathetic loser) Who?
    Or we can talk about lewis' lucky win against vitali.
    Yes i think this vitali(unbeaten version) couldn't beat a fat crap byrd.
     
  9. Savak

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    A fighter with his high work rate style should have been at his physical and natural best from 20's to early 30's before the reflexes slowed down big time which I believed happened with Tyson on his third come back in 1999. I
    Have seen a few training videos of his since 1999 and they completely lack intensity, his punching speed is horribly slow and it was clear he was done.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    he lost the real prime years in prison, and the buildup to going off the rails plus post incarceration - late 20s.
     
  11. Savak

    Savak Guest

    He was away from boxing for five and a half years ie 3.5 years in prison and almost 2 years post holyfield. Now that is suicidal for a fighter whose whole fighting style is based on quick reflexes and fitness.
     
  12. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The amount of psychological projection & Transference folks leverage with & against Tyson is astonishing. Many just pick a side & do NOT try to be fair & balanced. Cherry-picking all evidence on one side is intellectually dishonest.

    As is dismissing all opponents with virtually zero analysis, just name-calling them "bums". So you name a drug problem sometime of call an undefeated man larger than many other HWs you love or their opponents a LHW...

    Sure, Tyson dissolved somewhat after Rooney left, then the wheels fell off & his psychological problems kept him from fulfilling his potential. Yet he was H2H ATG with one of, arguably the greatest, 3 year run in HW history.

    1) For his age, best early career ever, bar none.

    2) In absolute terms, an ATG run. 18 fighters were named, '86-Spinks.
    He fought OFTEN, the average quality was at least GOOD even for a HW title run, & many were top contenders. look at their records, often how long they were undefeated or nearly so, sometimes afterwards too. We did this analysis in detail before.

    3) Disagree? Give me ANY HW ever you like.
    I will be happy to similarly DECIMATE his quality of opposition, who he fought, &/or how often. There will be some truth to it, but the point is if you stare hard at only any possible negatives, you will make a beauty queen look hideous, or we can make it seem like your idol would have lost to Stephen Hawking-absent the wheelchair.

    I'll compare Tyson's unifying championship run-& ad his pre-prison peak & near peak victories if you like-to anyone the haters want to name. WHO they fought, how good they were then, how often they fought, how decisively they won or were there some close &/or gift decisions...

    And it would be hard pressed not to be favorably.
     
  13. Kid Bacon

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    The love-hate complex about Tyson going on in this forum never fails to amaze me. It is so polarizing that perhaps we should ban his name from this board :)

    I understand that it is hard to have a balanced view on a "shoulda, woulda, coulda" guy like Tyson, but the extremes some guys go to attack or defend Tyson's career are shocking.

    Sure he had many worthy accomplishments, but he also had too many failures and blank areas in his resume. He is, at the best, borderline Top 10 ATG.

    But, hey, that is my opinion.

    And let's get real: nope; not even the best Tyson version would have been able to KO Ali, Foreman or a prime Holmes.
     
  14. Azzer85

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    They were dropped by lesser fighters though.

    We could easily say 'Alis chin was too good, hed never get dropped by a bum like Cooper' but we know thats not true.

    If any guy could stop those 3, it would be Tyson.
     
  15. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    The absolute peak of Tyson's prime was the Spinks fight in June 1988.