The Era of Eastern European domination has begun.

finally a sensible factual post on this topic:good:good:good

 

Americans boxers will always be at or near the top of the sport. Consider it's population and support infrastructure combined with promoters and TV networks looking for domestic talent to drive the bus and it would be shortsighted to think otherwise.

 

you missed out the most important aspect which is desire/hunger.

A guy whos got no other alternative income, will train and fight harder than a guy whose got a nice car and bank account and money to fall back on.

 

So what? Train as hard as you want that does not mean the promoters will sign you and the judges or refs will treat you fairly. I bet Kotelnik trained real hard for Devon Alexander and look where that got him. Same with Karmazin when he fought Spinks in St Louis. Provodnikov has been screwed over in all his losses, costing him millions of dollars.

 

Who you callin angry, you sumbitch?!

 

I didn't know The Abyss was in the United States. you learn something new everyday.

 

Despite all the "hunger and desire" the ex-Soviet fighters have, they still only have a handful of champions.

People are getting carried away a bit.

 

eastern europeans currently hold 13 world titles thats a lot

soon to be 14 with korobov

 

Yeah, and 2 guys hold about 8 of them.

And thats also including GGG, who while from a former soviet country, isnt really European by most definitions.

Im just saying this "domination" is way over blown

 

kazakhstan is a trans-continental country so it has every right to be considered european

which two champions hold 8 between them?

 

It also has every right to eb considered Asian, that why GGG has Asian Amateur titles and not European ones.

Well what titles are you including?

Wlad has the WBA,WBO,IBF and IBO titles (And Ring title)
Kovalev has WBA,IBF and WBO so thats 7 and a Ring title...which is "about 8"

Depends on what you count

 

trans-continental mate can be considered both asian and european so his titles can count towards the european total

wasn't counting the ibo and ring titles there bs

i did count abraham(Armanian) and Huck(Serbian)

 

Once you start getting into what nationalities some of these guys asre, its a rat hole or pointless arguments

Theres dozens top ranked fighters out there you could count as from2 different countries.

Chisora
Santa Cruz
Andy Lee
Sakio Bika
Darcinyan
Martisoyan
Kid Galahad
Andy Ruiz
Donaire
And pretty much every "German" fighter.
etc

 

well considering they were all born in eastern europe and Half of germany used to be in eastern europe too then i think its reasonable to consdier them eastern european

as for the rest of the lads il tell you what nationality i consider them

chisora- Zimbabwian
Santa Cruz - Mexican
Sakio Bika - Cameroonian
Darcinyan - Armanian
Martirosyan - American but thats a tough one
Galahad - English
Ruiz - Mexican
Donaire - Filipino

this isn't as much nationality though as half of germany was behind the iron curtain anyway its fair to include them