Mike Tyson vs Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    he freezes because his chin is weak, that hasn't changed - if anything since his prime days its got worse. though he has stayed in remarkably good shape for a 38 year old, that is very true. wlads longevity is OUTSTANDING, the best I have seen in a hw champ bar George foreman, holmes and poss evander.


    his opposition hasn't been great yes, in fact its rarely been good, which is atrocious for the world title.

    hes not alone in this of course. ricky bums? adrien broner? joe cal? so many weaklings on their cvs.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    no one even came as close to doing it as much as wlad,its obvious.
     
  3. Rock0052

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    Yeah, because the guy who eats people in the ring when the going gets tough is the model of coolness under fire.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    yeah Tyson was fcuked after jail. He wasn't the same man at all. The signs were clear that he wasn't wanting to be a boxer again. If you bite someone in the ring, its clearly blatantly obvious that somethings not right with your makeup anymore! It felt so out of character at the time, its actually still hard to believe today that he did it (though restrospect is a wonderful eye opener)


    he didn't eat people before jail, man. the man was in need of psychotherapy post behind bars for a **** crime, and he obviously didn't get enough.


    not to say he didn't need a different kind of therapy before jail too, to keep his libido in check.
     
  5. Azzer85

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    Tyson bit someone in one fight, Wladmir hangs on for dear life in nearly every fight.

    Tyson didn't build his legacy upon biting, Wladmir has built a large part of his legacy on clinching and hugging.

    Take away Tysons bite, and he still would have beat most of his opposition, take away Wladmirs hugging and hed have a few more losses that's the difference.
     
  6. Wass1985

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    Don't forget his constant hitting after the bell, he also had to resort to low blows against Ruddock when the going got tough.
     
  7. 88Chris05

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    Wladimir is a shade underrated for me, but cannae look past Tyson here. I think there could be similarities between this and Tyson's victories over Thomas and Biggs. Wlad's height and negative approach, as well as his weight and strength in the clinches, would probably frustrate Tyson for a while and Mike would likely have to eat a few jabs, but after being made to chip away and take his time I think he finally stops a still on his feet, but worn out Wladimir in about 7 or 8 rounds.
     
  8. Savak

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    Anyone with a **** chin against a fit Tyson should just Lie down seldon style automatically
     
  9. HeavyweightCP

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    Tyson would Wlad Brutally Wlad would hold but he is going get hit multiple times by Tyson and is going to to sleep the speed defense and power is something wlad has never seen and tyson would be riping Wlad with shots to the body.

    It would look like the biggs fight with more holding and less movement from Wlad Wlad would last 5-7 rounds with Tyson Wlad does not have the legs to outbox tyson he gets koed
     
  10. HeavyweightCP

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    I see Tyson get frustrated but after Rooney cusses him out in the corner Like in the holmes fight tyson kos wlad
     
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  12. slicksouthpaw16

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    Wlad still looks uncomfortable when someone puts pressure on him, i think it would be like the Brewster fight minus Brewster being knocked down. If Wlad expects Tyson to just sit at mid range and wait for his right hand, he has another thing coming.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    Probably Tyson but I say that with no real conviction. He wasn't much of an inside fighter which is where he'd have to be to get anywhere with Klitscko and did most of his best work from mid range, where I can't see him being very effective in this instance. Most of the big men Tyson fought were non aggressive and hung in their just to survive, ie, Tucker, Smith, Green, etc.. Wlad was not only larger and better conditioned than any of these guys, but he also had better skills and would do what he had to to try and win. Not an easy call.
     
  14. slicksouthpaw16

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    It doesn't matter how big Wlad is, that didn't stop him from clinching Povetkin (smallish heavyweight) every time he got close, so nothing suggests that it would be any different with Tyson who actually knows how punch out, and work out of a clinch. And Tyson was a GREAT inside fighter. You may be deceived by him going back to outside after his attacks but he did great work in close quarters.
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    Yet the historical trend clearly shows that the bigger the opponents got, the more Tyson struggled with them.


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    Wlad was 37 years old by the time he met Povetkin who incidentally was 6'2", 225 lbs... Not exactly what I would call "smallish" for a heavyweight and nor is this a peak Wlad we're talking about . While Klit did more than his fair share of holding, pushing, etc, he still beat the living **** out of Povetkin - dropping him four times. A different referee might have stopped that fight in round 7 when Alexander was getting killed.



    Tyson is seldom hailed for being a "great" inside fighter. He did some decent work on the inside, but mid range is where he earned his money, and I can't see him hitting Wlad from that distance or doing much with Klitschko in the clinches. If Tyson can get to Wlad early, land some body shots followed by some hooks and uppers to the head, then he MIGHT get him out of there early. But if round 4 comes and goes, and Wlad is still standing, its going to be a long night for Tyson and frankly the longer it goes, the more things work in favor of Klit.