The Transnational Boxing Rankings

If the TBR, in all of it's charity, likes to employ crackheads then I say more power too you. I guess crackheads are boxing fans too.

LOL..

 

If someone KO's the top 5 super middleweights (excluding Ward) over the next year and Ward remains inactive would Ward still be the champion?

 

That would be extraordinarily silly.

Hell, I'm of the mind that if Froch were to meet and dominate or knock out any two of TBRB #4 Stieglitz, #3 Dirrell and #7 DeGale (that would mean that Froch held either one sided or stoppage victories over the entire top 5 at the weight, having already pitched a near shutout against #2 Abraham and scored consecutive TKOs over #5 Groves... whose spot may be taken by DeGale with a solid W over Periban, pure guesswork on my part but that ought to be enough to leapfrog #6 Sturm who literally has never even debuted at SMW and thus shouldn't be in the rankings...kind of an embarrassing gaffe on TBRB's part, as Sturm vs. Stieglitz was a catchweight ...and even were it not, debuting with a draw and suddenly being ranked sixth in a new division seems a bit odd) he should absolutely be recognized as The Man...even with the lopsided defeat to super middle's current (by then former) part-time King.

 

I agree it would be silly.

As you mentioned catchweigh's it's worth remembering that Rodriguez weighed 170lbs for his fight with Ward which makes that a light heavyweight fight by my standards.

 

Boom, outstanding point. :good

Inactive now for 27 months and counting.

Of course, if we're being sticklers for technicality, it was sanctioned by the WBA as still being a "super middleweight" title bout. :conf

 

Talking of technicalities THE RING said that Ward beat "No. 7-rated Rodriguez" but they also said "Edwin Rodriguez has been dropped from THE RING's 168-pound rankings following his failure to make weight for his challenge to RING/WBA champion Andre Ward".

 

What does the board make of stuff like Ward vs. Rodriguez not even being technically super middle?

That's over 2 years, except in terms of it being an 'official' defense as far as the WBA is concerned.

...but what satisfies the WBA needn't satisfy TBRB necessarily; they aren't beholden to acknowledge Ward in the rankings when he last fought at the weight in September 2012, just because Gilberto Mendoza has looked the other way.

 

Well, it's apparent to me that someone on your "board" is smoking crack. How in the hell do you justify a top 5 P4P ranking for a guy who never fought the only other significant fighter in his division of his era?

Makes NO sense...

 

That's what Boxrec says but The WBA's official website says "The bout became a non-title after Rodriguez failed to make the 168lb division limit".

http://www.wbanews.com/boxing-news/photos-ward-dominates-rodriguez-in-virtuoso-performance

 

Well... even rolling with that, and even if many thought Sturm deserved the nod (surely TBRB doesn't base things on what "many thought should have been", as they oughtn't, sets a horrible precedent as that slope is just too slippery and subjective) - the result was a draw.

How did that discussion go, to debut #6 off that?

Besides, the point isn't whether Sturm came in between 161-168; the point is that Stieglitz (the B-side in negotiations, being the lesser name) was competitively disadvantaged by not being permitted contractually to come in all the way up to super middle's actual ceiling of 168.

So even had Sturm officially won, it still would seem wrong for him to be ranked at super middle having never fought a super middle that was allowed to weigh in all the way up to super middle's actual defined limit.

Both halves of the equation bother me, and put together, bother me quite a bit.