Why didn't Lennox Lewis carry his power to the late rounds?

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  1. Vanboxingfan

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    This is stupid. So let's say your correct, does that mean then Lewis "out of respect" to another fighter should go into a fight believing he's going to loose, perhaps risk permanent injury, just to satisfy the fans of another fighter. That's one of the stupidest comments I've read in days. The fact of the matter is, Vitali was well aware of the severity of his cut and if he was even close to the fighter his fans think he was, he would have stopped Lewis within the next couple of rounds. You're almost blaming Lewis for Vitali's performance, or in this case, lack of.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

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    Lewis's Net Worth is estimated to be in excess of 100M, 18M while a lot wasn't going to make or break him at that point in time. He'd already have enough money to last him and his kids for the rest of their lives.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

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    More stupid comments by Klitschko fans.

    News Flash: Fighting as long as the Ali's, Holyfield's and Tyson's is a stupid idea if you don't need the money. Nobody wants to either spend the rest of their lives with serious health problems or wants to be remembered as a shell of themselves if they can help it. I've been watching boxing for over 40 years and I can tell you the ref hadn't stopping that fight, Vitali likely would have been permanently injured. Even the doctor said that was the worst cut he's seen in 20 years.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    Asswhopping or not, Lewis not only won the fight, he won the last round of the fight, so in my books it doesn't damage his legacy at all, and in fact taking on such a tough opponent in his last fight and winning was a very good way to end his career. But of course haters are going to do what they do best and hate, rather than look in the mirror and ask why Vitali didn't have the right stuff to put Lewis away when he had the chance. Now they ***** and complain that they should have received a second chance, rather pathetic if you ask me.
     
  5. Flurry

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    you didnt grab the essence of my post probably because youre not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    I didnt say it was a good idea to keep fighting until you re a shell, i said different to the majority of former great fighters who fought on for too long because they didn't want to give up the limelight, being in the focus, the money earning possiblities this entailed, etc as long as possible, LL retired when he was still at his prime or very near it, he was force and had all possibilities. This was odd judging by the history of boxing. THats why I insinuated he actually didnt want to retire but wanted to keep going instead and would have kept going if it hadnt been for Klitschko being around.

    The cut indeed was bad, but in a championship bout and the fighter in question even leading on the cards, the ref could have given him a couple more rounds.

    But thats not the main point, the point is this fight and the outcome of it was yelling "rematch" all over, much more so than any Holyfield vs LL or Bowe vs Holyfield, the better fighter had to be taken out of the fight due to an injury. LL won on a lucky incident. he wasnt the better fighter and everyone could see that. OK things like that happen, simply fight again is the logical solution, LL despite being fit and healthy and big money fights in the waiting to be made chose to retire.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

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    The better fight in any given fight is the guy who wins. The idea that the better fighter lost that night is pure ****. And no way no how was Lewis anywhere near his prime. You really need to become real here because most of what you saying is utterly ridiculous.

    Near prime?? It was the worst version of him I've ever saw and I've watched him from beginning to end.

    And no the ref couldn't have given him a couple more rounds, because to have done so would have been to ignore the advice of the ringside doctor. No ref in his right mind would ever do that, because if Vitali had gone blind in that one eye or suffered a life ending punch, the issue of liability would be huge.

    I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but you're almost a child in terms of your knowledge of any liability issues. Might want to take a law class one of these days.
     
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    LL was sharp and hungry that night and - if at all - not far beyond his prime. What you mistake for "the worst Lewis you had seen in some time" really was that night he was facing a life opponent, instead of the punching bag and complete shell tyson, or the limited toothless botha, the man with no chin grant, the slow plodder and one dimensional tua or the one hit wonder Rahman. He was facing an opponent that for once managed to make him look ordinary at times, different to the guys LL had faced since holyfield.

    Conventiently you omit addressing the other points i made, but that is not astonishing. Not only are you not a very sharp knife apparently, but additionally you re an extremely biased and limited lewis Fan. I dont think i will waste my time speaking to you.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    You're an idiot; simple as that. Go watch the fight again and tell us that that was the best version of Lewis we've ever seen. Look with your own ****ing eyes who sustained the most damage in that fight.

    And I might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm willing to bet I'm far smarter than you are. I have a university degree an accounting designation, two financial planning designations, and I've owned an operated a tax/account/financial planning business since 1994, which is probably about the time you were being born.
    *******.
     
  10. Flurry

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    You're only a "fan" and that word originally comes from fanatic. In 1994 I already had a few years following the game of boxing under my belt, and unlike you I will not brag with university degrees because you re only an anonymous internet person and i dont see any need trying to impress someone like you. In my opinion that is very poor and besides it is pretty pointless. It should be enough for you to know we re conversing in your mother tongue which for me is a foreign language I learnt well enough to debate stuff in. Try that out yourself for starters, smart man. Finish.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    It doesn't matter whether it's your first language or your third, name calling is uncalled for and will be reciprocated in kind. As as far as my education is concerned, I only brought it up because YOU implied I had comprehension problems, more than once I might add.
     
  12. Flurry

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    Reading comprehension? look up this thread and check who used the word "stupid" in this context first.

    b)
    And I didn't mention the first/or second language stuff as a handicap, you can call me whatever you want, I brought it up responding to this quote of yours:

     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    time to put you on ignore, this is ridiculous.
     
  14. Savak

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    Vitali wanted to continue fighting, don't see why it had to stopped prematurely
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Why don't you learn the rules of boxing. A fighter who is hurt will sometimes fight until they die, because of that, they have others such as the doctors, ref's and cornermen to act on their behalf to protect them. that is why there wasn't a 15 round in the Thrilla in Manila. And why any fans of Vitali would want him to risk his eyesight is a mystery to me.