The Unofficial champ of Europe is often the best in the division

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Using the top man of each division, a P4P list could be made, though you can get 2 great names in one division and at WW there are 3/4/5/6, who could all get a mention.
    I change my P4P list on a regular basis and find that the list can be made up of recent wins, overall achievements etc as well as being division #1.
    My current top 10

    F Mayweather
    M Pacquiao
    S Kovalev
    R Gonzales
    W Klitschko
    K Brook
    M Cotto
    G Golovkin
    M Huck
    G Rigondeux


    Looked at other possible names in T Crawford, C Frampton, C Froch and wouldnt argue too much with any changes other than Floyd at #1.

    would have to say there is alot of talent at WW
     
  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know that this is hard for you to accept because you wanna believe that all things being equal the best fighters are from Europe. I don't agree with that. They are excellent fighters but their skills are honed in the states and the fact still remains that they fight for less money than a comparable USA fighter. The bottom line is money when you get through talking. True, Pirog beat Jacobs but that's not saying much because Jacobs was not considered top flight. Check this out, when our fighters get old and can't compete over here, they go over there and still compete but an old fighter from over there will never be able to compete over here. Look at Ward, the only thing stopping him is that he's pricing himself out of business. I respect fighters from all over the world because I respect the art of boxing but I will take offense to you or anybody else that implies we are inferior as fighters.
     
  3. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If you look all those Europeans fighters you see that most are trained by American fighters.
     
  4. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a West Europe and an East Europe. Kazahkstan and Russia belongs to East Europe, which is also Europe.

    Which maybe you people in Belarus missed out on. It's okay. Building an education system takes time.
     
  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Do people really consider Kovalev Asian?
     
  6. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    jakeoaree, is that you:yikes:admin
     
  7. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    jakeoaree, is that you:think:yikes:admin
     
  8. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More bulls.h.i.t! It is not "most", you are just spewing hyperbole again.

    Where you go, I go........ CHAMP!
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good luck to those trainers jumping on the ready made success.
     
  11. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha! I like this thread! Hilarious!
    Kazahkstan is part of eastern europe,eh! Whats next? China is Kazahkstan's neighbour.Do you also think that China is part of eastern europe? What about the USA? This big country is just a little bit east of China.Probably also eastern europe,eh! Come to think of it France may also be part of eastern europe.Hell,the entire world is part of eastern europe:D:rofl:D
    Nah! You expert on "eastern europe" s hould know that Belarus has the best education system on our tiny planet:D
    The vast mayority of europeans dont consider Russia to be a part of europe,and the vast mayority of Russians dont consider themselves to be europeans or part of europe.Culturally and mentally there is a huge gap between europe and russia.
    Geografically,Australia is in Asia,but culturally and mentally there are far closer to europe than Russia was or will ever be.
    Believe me,in russian we even say that we travel to europe when speaking about a trip to Germany or France or.. .
    By the way this has nothing to do with race.Yes,Russians are "white,but so are Iranians,or the ruling elite in India.