Weightlifting for Boxing - What to...

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Brixton Bomber, Jun 12, 2014.



  1. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What's your opinion on Squats? Are they good for transfer to sport etc?
     
  2. dealt_with

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    Bands are good too, same principle for extra resistance at different range of motions. Probably not useful/necessary unless you have an experienced athlete looking for small improvements.
     
  3. dealt_with

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    They're fundamental/foundational, strength through the triple extension.
    During the next phase of training you'd look at developing power through the triple extension (olympic weightlifting and it's derivatives), and in the sports specific phase you'd use a power exercise that replicates ground contact times of throwing a punch (different plyometrics).
    Squats should never be completely removed from training, as strength is the foundation for all biomotor abilities.
    There's no point doing plyometrics and all these fancy things to increase RFD if you don't have basic strength. For someone who isn't strong then performing strength exercises such as squats will improve RFD more than anything else (backed up by countless research articles). To overcome inertia you need to be able to apply force.
     
  4. BEATDOWNZ

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    Thanks for the reply. ;-)
     
  5. Butch Coolidge

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNhOOac2bAk
    Brett Rather's pro boxing debut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sd5STCdrnc

    You'd think with a squat like that he could crush his opponent out of there in short order.

    Why didn't he?

    For one thing, he didn't sit down on many of his punches.

    Why didn't he sit down on all his punches?

    My guess is he was pacing himself or rationing his energy so he was limiting his maximum efforts to what he saw as the better punching opportunities. Again going back to conditioning.

    There are also probably some more subtle technical reasons he wasn't crushing the guy when he was connecting on him.
     
  6. dealt_with

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    Do you have an actual learning disability? When have I ever said that a squat will teach you how to box? I once saw a marathon runner box and he couldn't punch or keep a respectable pace when he was throwing punches. I just proved that conditioning is useless, sorry. Now what magical training exercise that isn't boxing can we use to master boxing?
    Please, you can't be that dumb.
     
  7. Butch Coolidge

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    You proved that conditioning is useless?:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl God damn, you're funny.

    Listen to the commentary about 10 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP_5Pw8GFE0 You might learn something. You obviously don't know what a boxer needs to fight hard for 180 seconds a round.

    Lighter weight, little rest, more and more reps ( 3 minutes into the video ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqvCZlRVZpc


    Somebody with brain power may be noticing a bit of a pattern by now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRpPHlDUC0Y Train with weights to increase your stamina so you won't become sluggish as the fight progresses and your forced to do more work.

    This just in: Dealt_With has proven that conditioning is useless. All boxers immediately put down the jump ropes, stop roadwork immediately, no more timed rounds on the heavy bags. Go to the nearest heavy barbell and start lifting.
     
  8. TheCimpIsHere

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    I have been experimenting and have come to a solution that conditioning is a myth.:cool:Just lift weights and you will be unbeatable :thumbsup
     
  9. dealt_with

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    It's called sarcasm you moron, I was imitating your ridiculous mindset and black and white thinking. Maybe you now have some understanding of just how dumb you sound?
     
  10. pecho26

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    You are absolutely clueless on strength training for boxers.
     
  11. pecho26

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    I dont know why some people think that by lifting weights you will learn how to throw a punch or fight. :patsch:rofl:rofl
    There isnt even a debate about it. How can someone be so dense to mix the two together?:think
     
  12. Butch Coolidge

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    so are Roy Jones Jr. kovalev, algieri and couture. By your thinking.
     
  13. viru§™

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    They most likely are clueless about strength training for boxers. Just because somebody boxes/teaches boxing doesn't mean they have the faintest idea about strength training, you yourself are proof of this.

    You see a video of these guys picking up weights and assume they have the slightest clue that they understand why they're doing what they're doing. :lol:
     
  14. Brand NOOBian

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    I agree with you. Working on technique and sparring + actual fighting are probably best for learning how to throw punches and fight. But just to play devil's advocate, if someone has a decent grasp on throwing punches properly and fighting already, won't lifting weights and getting stronger generally carry over at least a little bit in boxing? Discuss. :think
     
  15. viru§™

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    That has been the discussion for the past 5 or so pages... although there's nothing to discuss really, just attempting to get that point across to an ignorant, not so bright guy is quite a challenge.