Naseem Hamed, Rid**** Bowe, Ray Mancini Elected Into HOF!

you got me confused now?

also cba to look it up, but didn't Bowe come back and fight a couple of bums?

im certain he last fought in 98

 

... and naseem beat all of them at some point

he also was lineal champ for some 4 years , and rated as the number 1 in his division for more than 6 .

his resume isn't that great, but let's stop with this " wbo " **** .

 

bowe last fought against golota in 1996 so he could have been elected in 2002.


and came back i believe in 2004 or 5 against marcos rhode: billy zumbrun then he had fight in germany his last one in 2008 against gane pukal!

 

They're similar in that each only has one truly great win over a guy they also lost to, but Marquez has like 10 very good wins (Juan Diaz *2, Casamayor, Salido, Barrera, Juarez), Bowe's second best win is probably Larry Donald.

 

Bowe wasn't on the ballot last year!

 

Bowe was an awful 'champion'. He ****ed on our sport numerous times; throwing away the belt was just the icing on the cake. They should never have elected him.

 

No but he was eligible.

His last fight was 2008.

2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 are his requisite five years of full retirement, meaning he could have at the earliest been on the ballot for the class of '14.

Odd that he wasn't even on the ballot in his first eligible year and then not only makes it on but gets in his 2nd. Was the Modern list on the ballot this year just super thin on worthy names?

 

96 is meaningless, they go by your last actual bout..which is why Holyfield still has to wait a couple of years.

 

Here’s the Modern Ballot with the list of all the names we received through the mail. I also had ballots that I had to fill out for all the other categories as well.

MODERNS – Last bout no earlier than 1989

Please check the candidates of your choice. You may vote up to 5 boxers. You are not required to vote for 5, but you may not vote for more than 5. Ballots must be submitted by mail or fax by October 31, 2014. Three (3) will be elected.

Paulie Ayala
Nigel Benn
Rid**** Bowe
Donald Curry
Chris Eubank
Leo Gamez
Naseem Hamed
Genaro Hernandez
Julian Jackson
Santos Laciar
Rocky Lockridge
Miguel (Happy) Lora
James (Buddy) McGirt
Ray Mancini
Henry Maske
Dariusz Michalczewski
Sung-Kil Moon
Michael Moorer
Orzubek (Gussie) Nazarov
Sven Ottke
Vinny Pazienza
Lupe Pintor
Gilberto Roman
Gianfranco Rosi
Samuel Serrano
Meldrick Taylor
Fernando Vargas
Wilfredo Vazquez
Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
Hilario Zapata

What 5 would you vote for?

 

this - people are assuming backwards historical weighting to titles that were worthless back in the 90s. just because wbo are 4th best title today, it don't mean they were worth the same in the 90s. naz, eubank and calzaghe notched up countless subnational defences with them when they were regarded as no more than national belts.

that said, naz and co are not far off hof, trouble is they didn't fulfil, and that's what should exclude them until he adds to his legacy.

 

ah right, i knew he came back and fought again, didn't realise it was in 08.

 

Naz didn't just live off the WBO belt, he won all 4 belts and was recognized as the best fw in the world for a good 5 odd years.

 

Ray Mancini?

Ive no problem with Naz being in there.

If it wasnt for sanctioning body nonsense, he would have been undisputed champ

 

Bowe and Naseem are a joke.

 

how is Naseem a joke?