John Ryder vs Chris Eubank jr

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  1. kovalevtheGoat

    kovalevtheGoat The Chelyabinsk Machine banned Full Member

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    Now now now....

    Imo saunders beat eubank by 5rounds. And he did similar to ryder. both ryder and eubanks got power and strength, ryder is a good inside fighter as is eubank. eubank is pretty awful from the outside, ryder is decent on the outside, Eubank has more speed, Ryder is more competent. Both look to have solid jaws. Who wins?
     
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  2. mcguirpa

    mcguirpa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What the **** is this? 3-2-1?
     
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  3. BlackBrenny

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    Ryder is a beast on the inside, he was bullying Saunders too when he got in close and he even has a better physique than Eubank IMO, you wouldn't see Eubank out muscling Ryder

    Eubank spent a lot of time training and sparring in the US including at the Mayweather gym, yet IMO Ryder has the far better shoulder roll and other slick moves, he made Saunders miss wildly at times and landed great counters like Eubank kept attempting but to no avail because Eubank wasn't willing to make Saunders work early doors like Ryder was

    I think this would be a cracking fight because Eubank would be in with somebody just as strong as him and who has some slick boxing skills to boot

    Ryder would be a much harder fight for Eubank style-wise than Saunders because of his strength alone.

    Ryders pro debut

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjTMTUECU6I

    What a monster
     
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  4. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ryder would stop Eubank. Styles make fights and Ryder is as strong as, and much more skilled than Eubank.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I really like Ryder. I liked him the first time I saw him fight. As you say, he's got some lovely slick moves and he's great on the inside. He is very strong but I'm not too sure about his power. Don't get me wrong, he has good power but if he could really bang I honestly think he could be a little bit special.

    I can't remember how I scored it now but I seem to recall thinking at the time that he beat Saunders or at least deserved a draw. And I think he definitely would've won that fight had he put his foot on the gas earlier instead of holding back because he hadn't gone the full 12 round distance before. In fact, he hadn't even gone past 8 before then.

    I'd fancy him to beat Eubank Jr.
     
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  6. Klitman

    Klitman Active Member Full Member

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    No money in this fight, won't happen
    Fwiw I think Ryder wins , but Ryder should focus on his world ranking as opposed to a second/third place playoff
     
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  7. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Should ave happened b4 he faught BJS

    Would love to see it, don't have a clue what way it would go after how Eubanks looked last wk
     
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  8. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ryder would not stop Eubank Jnr. More like the other way around.
     
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  9. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    eubank hits much harder though.
    Can't think how you gave the fight to billy by 5 much closer than that
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Good fight:good They should make it, I question CEJ chin Ryder may crack it, in close.
     
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  11. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    :nut
    this is we're boxing let's itself down, with respect john Ryder I'd possibly the 5th or 6th best MW in the UK yet he's trying to get a world ranking, prove your top 2or 3 in UK fight a couple of world ranked opponents (proper ones) then you've earned the right to challenge for a world title
     
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  12. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    How can you question his chin?
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because Billy Joe Saunders rocked him a few times.:good
     
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  14. Klitman

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    Agreed Billy, but all we hear nowadays is comments like "when one of us wins a world title, this is a stadium fight", or "hes not on may radar" etc etc.

    I agree its a good fight, but there is simply no money in that fight at this stage (imo) and this is what talks.
     
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  15. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the problem for eubank is that billy was a decent style for him, hed be better off taking an easier fight or two first then maybe blackwell or etches rather than ryder. he needs to figure out what hes trying to do in there first
     
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