https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77CSVOfAycg interesting video dealing with this topic what do you guys think and to the guys who are putting down kettle bells its interesting the same guys will make know it all remarks about any training from kettle bell to bodybuilding-powerlifting to even old school boxing style training and will say how wrong any and all of it is for a boxer or even a person trying to get in shape but oddly enough, i want to hear what they think is THE RIGHT TYPE OF STRENGTH TRAINING FOR A FIGHTER.... and please say something besides fcuking squats please? and no cheat ass cop out answers like "it depends on your goals" lets hear your answer to do with what YOU think is the right way for a fighter to get stronger
It depends on where they are in their training, it's called periodisation and a needs ****ysis for an individual. It is truly idiotic to think that there is one thing that is suitable for anyone regardless of their training status. It depends on strengths/weaknesses and where they are trying to get to. You want a simple answer because you obviously have a very simp mind.
His swinging technique is ****ing terrible. And if that is messed up i dont see how his other 3 standard lifts are any better.
its not about wanting a simple answer, i just always read these guys putting down every possible training method now i want to see, what they actually recommend besides talking out of their ass and simple mind lol lets hear your big answers? ohh yeah you dont have any besides saying generic **** that everyone knows about periodisation and treating every individual different.... i meant like what types of excerises are good not generic **** ok? and let me guess you have done what 3 mouths of training at a boxercise studio....right???
maybe it is? but you explain excatly how do the swing or better yet show it? and back to the point i am sure his experiece in boxing or even kettle bell outweights your 3 mouths of your studio boxercise training... but hey i am sure you and the 47 year old women in your classes got good training there lol:hey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX9FIkQ3zzk Here is Steve Cotter explaining kettlbell swings. Why are you so defensive? He is the top chain of Kettlebells. Im just saying that the guys swing is horrible, rounded back, shoulders forward. That a recipe for disaster. His form only informs me that he isnt suitable for explaining anything. If you **** up one general swing, a prime movement in kettlebells what the hell we need to talk about?
How could he give a "big answer" without being given the goals/strengths/weaknesses/injury history of a particular athlete/individual? Did you read the part where he said the training prescribed would depend upon the individual? I could give you a list of strength exercises that any athlete could do, but what would be the point? Workouts should serve a specific purpose for a specific individual. People that do things for the sake of doing things (obviously yourself included) don't actually know what they're doing. Think before your next post, you're embarrassing yourself... again.
It seems to me that all dealt_with is saying is that optimal training for strength requires big weight loads, and for that barbells are needed. He says kettles are useful to 'strong people' as a conditioning tool only. But then he also states that kettles, TRX etc is gimmicky training for soccer mums. I know kettlebell training has been exploited by the snake oil salesmen but to brush it off with such a generalisation is a bit silly for someone with his undoubted knowledge. He was being provocative because really he knows that kettles, dumbbells, sand bags etc are all merely different forms of weight training and have their place just as do barbells. Now he'll come on here and say he wasn't being provocative, and try and draw me or anyone else into a ding-dong. He reminds me of the man in Monty Python who went to buy an argument. :hey
I was saying they are next to useless for an athlete. Teaches poor mechanics through the hips and knees and they aren't going to get you stronger unless you're very weak. People can read into what they want, I'm just saying it how it is. The only time I've used kettlebells in an athletic setting is when teaching beginners how to squat and for Turkish get ups, or for a weight while doing pull ups.
Exactly. Here's a general answer for that poster... An upper body and lower body push and pull exercise... Progress with load and exercise selection. Next question...
Why do I care? There are many top track coaches, some I agree with and some I don't... That's in terms of sprinting cues and things to focus on. When it comes to strength training their athletes I don't care what they have to say on that.
