Has anyone hit the wall faster that Sergio Martinez?

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It wasn't overnight. He suffers a bad knee injury when he's 37, struggles through his next fight, and two years later collapses in the ring.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Boxing is a fiercly competative sport (for most divisions) - although it may not seem it at times...

    A long life of sports left Martinez with a only a short period whereby he could achieve what he did.

    I had Martinez beating Cotto comfortably (with the asterisk stating only if he was injury free)

    He was injury free...but his knees were shot to sh*t

    The Martin Murray fight was telling...but alot of people felt that it was just because Sergio didn't take it seriosly enough.
     
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  3. Imperial1

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    Yet he spent over a decade as one the best fighters p4p how is that that a sharp fall ?
     
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  4. kirk

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    You don't see how going from the best p4p fighter in the world one year, to off the top 10 list the very next year is a sharp fall? :blood Are you understanding what is being said?

    A sharp fall is going from a high place to a low place quickly... suddenly. The topic of this thread.

    Roy Jones went from 1st, to off the entire top 10 list.... in a span of a year.

    That is a sharp fall.
     
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  5. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the signs started to become more reality by then. he was never all that good to begin, hell of a career for a soccer player but his greatest win was against a 3/4 dead chaves jr.

    serg wouldn't go anywhere near jr anywhere close to a half safe weight for jr. 3/4 dead jr was beat by scoring but he ended serg's run so serg lost the war
     
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  6. Muff

    Muff Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This has become the most overused and misapplied phrase regarding him.
     
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  7. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep
     
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  8. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you kidding? Sergio tore his ACL and screwed up his knee. And for an athletic fighter, that makes a difference. Many more have fallen quicker.
     
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  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    and also fighting bigger guys....he was 147 and 154 85% of his career
     
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  12. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has decline a lot due to obvious injures so I don't count that. I say Juan Manuel Lopez hit the wall and declined like he aged fast and the other is Dzinziruk maybe he couldn't keep his weight down anymore.
     
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  13. painforall

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    Roy Jones
    Martinez
    Donaire


    They all relied on athleticism instead of technique and once those reflexes dull a bit they fall off real fast.
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I wonder how much time Martinez actually spent on boxing in the gym after Jr broke him? :think
    With all the therapy and surgeries, i doubt he trained more than 6 months for Murray and Cotto combined.
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    How about knocking out Williams or bloodying Pavlik? :huh
    And whats with the weight excuse? Jr was as game as always.
     
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