goat... fedor vs jones, who's best?

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  1. infandibulum

    infandibulum the bacchus Full Member

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    Did anyone else think that Jones looked massive in there with Cormier? I understand that making weight is part of the game, but there is a point to divisions, isn't there?

    Just because JJ can somehow scraape LHW does it mean that he should be considered the greatest fighter? It just seems to me that he is a guy who happens to ideally highlight the problems with classifying a fighter only by weight.

    Does anyone think that emelianenko is bigger than Jones, in real fighting terms?
     
    infandibulum, Jan 8, 2015
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  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was apart of the greatness of Fedor. Every time he stepped into the ring he was defying the odds usually giving up height, reach and lean mass to the opponent. He proved on many occasions that he had the ability to vanquish said opponents larger than himself.

    Jones in his one fight against a quality opponent of equal size was made to look rather mediocre.
     
    ForemanJab, Jan 8, 2015
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  3. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    ^^

    Now there's a knowledgable poster! Top work, sir!

    Weidman is massively overlooked when it comes to his resume.

    Add Jacare and Mousasi to that list (if he fights and beats them) and that's a legendary résumé right there!
     
    BEATDOWNZ, Jan 9, 2015
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  4. infandibulum

    infandibulum the bacchus Full Member

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    So if Jones can't really ever become the greatest by fighting at LH because he is clearly negating the level playing field that weight restrictions are meant to impose, and there by always fighting at an advantage over smaller fighters...

    Should a giant heavyweight never be considered the goat?
     
    infandibulum, Jan 13, 2015
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  5. KelandBeave

    KelandBeave Fab 4 Full Member

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    Exactly, Jones could beat up the 10 best LHW ever and still never get the accolade of GOAT
     
    KelandBeave, Jan 13, 2015
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  6. JohnJohn

    JohnJohn Active Member Full Member

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    Having Fedor at number four is a little odd in my opinion. Like many fighters, Fedor's going to have some journey men and gate keepers on his resume. However, he fought Cro-Cop and Minotauro Nogueira (twice) in their primes when both those men were cementing their legacies as legendary fighters. Not to mention Fedor was undefeated for ten years in, arguably, what was then the most talent laden organization (Pride).

    As far as Jones being the GOAT is concerned, the jury's still out for me. The guy's still young though, so if he keeps going at the pace he's been at, then it will be indisputable.
     
    JohnJohn, Jan 20, 2015
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  7. BOMB SQUAD

    BOMB SQUAD Active Member Full Member

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    This.

    The GOAT doesn't cut weight.
     
    BOMB SQUAD, Mar 12, 2015
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  8. testez

    testez Member Full Member

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    hehe, good one

    fedor is my fav and i consider him the GOAT. But Bones can overtake him if he goes to heavy and impresses there...i personally hate the fact that he dwarfs everyone he fights /guss(and we saw what happent).
     
    testez, Mar 13, 2015
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  9. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Fedor go around poking his opponents in the eyes when it got tough in there.
     
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