In hind sight, How should Frazier have fought Foreman?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm only hostile towards pompous people,who think they are always right, don't have the nuts to admit they are wrong ,and out and out liars such as Mendoza.
    I can handle stick and don't mind it at all.
    McGrain for example dislikes me, but I respect him as a poster.
    You for example don't perturb me in the least.
    I'm not a bully,and can't be bullied, neither am I crying , just explaining why you don't get on with people, when you find yourself allied with the likes of Mendoza,perhaps it's time to take stock?
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    In all this dribble, I don't see one mention of Foreman or Frazier or the sport of boxing...
     
  3. mcvey

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    You opened the ball I merely responded.Your dislike of me skews your judgement .Frazier won 3 of the 4 full rounds ? BULL****!
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You sure weren't, you attributed remarks to the commentator he never made!
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    Can you give any reasoning behind your stance that Foreman won every round and it is madness to question it?

    I've given my reasons.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    If you feel scrambling Howard Cosell one liners is evidence one didn't pay attention to the fight, you would be foolish and wrong.
     
  7. punchy

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    The only way Frazier could beat Foreman was to use rope a dope methods.
     
  8. clark

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    Difficult with Joe's lack of height and reach.
     
  9. mcvey

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    My old browser does not support most of the links, I've ordered a new desk top PC which should be here within a week.I've told you three times I can't access the original link and have made no attempt to claim the one I posted was in fact that one.
    My hunch was right ,you do have reading problems.
    Your report is unnamed and does not expressly say Frazier won ANY ROUNDS all it says is he appeared to have an edge in one of them ,which is not what you claimed.
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    Says the guy who responded to an old post for the second time as if it was a new one.

    :nut

    Once more, just give your god damn take on the rounds we disagree with and move the **** on.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Rd1Foreman 10-9
    Rd 2 Foreman 10-9
    Rd 3 Foreman 10-9
    Rd 4 Foreman 10-9
    Rd 4 the closest round, arguably an even round.
    I see no way on earth anyone could give Frazier the 1st and 2nd rounds .
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    I don't see how 4 could be anything but a Frazier round unless you score on a curve for Foreman.

    Do you dispute these observations?

    Round 1: Frazier misses a left hook at the start. Foreman is throwing lots of jabs, uppercuts, and trying to measure with hooks but is missing just about everything as Frazier is bobbing and weaving and smiling at him. With 20 seconds left, Fraizer connects with a solid right hand. Cosell mistakenly calls it a good left hand. Foreman lands a good left hook as the clock winds down. Even round really, I lean towards Frazier because his defense and clowning was making George look foolish but I could see a case for Foreman winning because he was so busy.

    Round 2: Lots of feinting, Foreman missing a lot of jabs but finally touches Frazier with somea nd backs him into the ropes but Frazier answers with a solid left hook. Cosell "FRAZIER WITH A GOOD ANSWERING LEFT HOOK!" Foreman connects a few times with punches to the arms with Frazier on the ropes, but he is still slipping and making him miss most of his punches. Frazier hits another big left hook counter that Cosell goes crazy over. Frazier knocks back Foreman's head at 1:10 with a jab/hook. Foreman hits a stiff jab but misses the uppercut. Foreman blocks a big left, and hits some short body punches but Frazier knocks him back with another jab/hook at :37 seconds. Another flush one lands at :24. And another:05. Foreman misses lots of jabs/uppercuts, some hit Joe's arms. Slow motion replay highlights Frazier's left hook. Cosell says "its' a Fight! Much better round for Frazier! but says never the less the unofficial scoring around me has it 2-0 Foreman" whatever that means to you. I disagree 2 being a Foreman round, he was aggressive and busy, but got tagged too much and missed too much. Joe landed the biggest and cleanest punches of the round
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  13. mcvey

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    I gave Foreman the first two rounds easily,I'm mystified how anyone could give them to Joe.Again in the third Foreman lands more .The only arguable round imo, is the fourth .

    You seem unduly influenced by Frazier having some success in making George miss, it's as off the mark as your assertion that Cosell influenced my opinion,if anything Cosell is very pro Frazier. I'm relying on what I see not any commentary.
    Ask anyone whom you respect on here,[if such a poster exists,] if their score card tallies with yours.
    Swagdelfadel, who is a Frazier fan only gives Joe the 4th rd.:think
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    In the first round Foreman threw more, but neither landed much. I open to that being a Foreman round.

    In round 2, Frazier landed the better punches.

    I clarified that I never accused you of being swayed by Cosell.

    Nobody can give their opinion on the fight on a round by round basis for whatever reason, it won't effect how I see the fight, but would be interesting at least.
     
  15. mcvey

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    I'm not getting this, I don't profess to be smart and I'm obviously missing something here
    .Still I suppose its an improvement,I haven't been accused of lying or deliberately trying to mislead anyone.
    I'll try and get some views from others on this forum.