Mike Tyson - The Hardest puncher in History

Right, there is no definitive proof available.
Though Annubis alone supplied more than "one or two" examples. And left out others who fought many & said things like Shavers hit the hardest, such as tex Cobb. A champion at absorbing punishment!

My only quibble with your comment Pablod is that the ability to KO, effectiveness of blows, has to do with so many other things than pure power.
So clearly a guy could hit very hard, theoretically the hardest ever, 7 not do so well against many, at least when moving up to World Class fighters, due to many relative deficiencies in skill.

We have our eyes, testimonials, & trying to isolate things like accuracy, volume, combinations & many other markers of effectiveness from pure power.

 

Are you really telling me that the Quick Tillis that Morrison KO'd was the same fighter 5 years and 6 KO defeats later that Tyson beat?

Are that colossal a dumbshhit?

Again, what rated heavyweight did Morrison KO?

 

Maybe Ruddock? The Ruddock who was fatter, slower and had fought only once in 3 years since losing to Lennox in 1992.

Maybe Carl Williams? But damn, Tommy almost got stopped in Round 6 I believe.

Maybe Joe Hipp?

I'm guessing these guys weren't even ranked...

 

In terms of brute punching power alone, I would say guys like Ruddock, Morrison, and Bruno hit harder than Tyson. Tyson's greatest asset wasn't his power, but his speed, accuracy, and timing.

 

Yeah and Tillis was flying when Tyson fought him you re****ed ****wit!

Here you go window licker, I suppose what the man actually says doesn't mean anything to a nuthugger like yourself!

The two men met in New York in May 1986. The scheduled ten-rounder pitted the savage aggression of the 19-0 (19) Tyson vs the ring smarts and experience of Tillis. Most expected a fast and explosive victory for the Brooklyn ace but the ten-years-older Tillis was ready to derail the Tyson train.

“I knew he was a tough boy but by this time I'd discovered my allergies so was able to train very hard for the fight” says James who scaled 207¾lbs to Tyson’s 215. “ I was running and training as hard as I could and felt like a million dollars.”

The fight started with Tyson looking to load up but Tillis sensibly jabbed the shorter man before tying him up whenever he got too close. On the inside, Tillis would cleverly find room for hard shots to the mid section before spinning away.

To the shock of the crowd, Tillis seemed ahead after three rounds and was winning the fourth before disaster struck. A mistimed right left James open to a Tyson left hook and down he went hard though got up straight away with a wink though had to spit out some teeth.

“He didn't hit me with no power” insists Tillis who Tyson later said gave him his toughest ever fight. “He hit me on the chin and I didn't even feel it. He was supposed to murder me in two rounds yet I put it on the man all night.”

The fight was in the balance until the final few rounds. A big finish by Tyson saw Tillis hold more as the rounds progressed. Mike was rewarded with a decision by 8-2 by one judge and just 6-4 for the other two. Many had it a draw with some even suggesting Tillis had been robbed, a notion James agrees with.

“I won eight of those rounds, I hurt him with a lot of stuff. I threw a lot of combinations, body-shots, I put it on him man.”

 

In their rematch, while unready 2 fight , McCall was still 2 strong 4 Lewis 2 handle . Having watched 1 of their sparring sessions , it was quite obvious that Tyson was stronger . But then Holyfield was a bit stronger in their fight , and Lewis was stronger than him .
Stylez make sumo and wrestling fights 2 .
And roid levels come f8 n8 2 .
And other things 2 such as level of preparation , etc .

 

@wass

Go and search for a Job. poor troll man!

And don´t come with your rattle cage ****.

 

I've got a job that would pay for you and your inbred family quite comfortably, saying that a mud hut isn't going to cost me much now is....

 

Scaffolder pays well?

 

the comments from tillis prove the point im making that opponents testimony is not reliable. 'he never hurt me' so what were you doing on the floor?
'I won 8 rounds' no james, you didn't.
using opponents comments to make a case for a boxers power or lack of it can be misleading to say the least.
Who knows the motives for such comments, good or bad?

 

That's my point. We have only one measure of power in boxing and that's the ability to down quality opponents, and the quicker and more sensational the better.
Its not much help talking about how power combines speed, balance, torque, techniqiue, timing, accuracy etc etc etc I think we all know this, its a complicated process and impossible to separate into its component parts, but all we can judge, all we can measure are the results.
We can argue all day that shavers hit harder than foreman or whatever but with no deciding evidence we might as well argue about who had the best shorts.
All we can really ask is , 'all things considered who was most effective at knocking people out?'
Randall tex cobb saying shavers hit harder is fine but what value is this opinion when he never experienced the power of Tyson? how can I compare two steaks after only tasting one?

 

Better than **** sucker? X

 

He was never visibly hurt against Tyson, the knock down was a result of him missing a shot and being countered. So we will play using your method shall we, Greg Page put Tillis down and out and Tillis was more visibly hurt by him than Tyson, Page hits harder don't you agree??

 

that's not my method, not sure what youre talking about

 

The hardest punchers ever P4P are Julian Jackson and Jimmy Wilde.