Bermane Stiverne vs. Deontay Wilder speculation & discussion

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  1. rowedav

    rowedav He Glassed Me Full Member

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    Dreadful condition. Rolls of fat hanging over his boxers. Come on now.

    Hopefully Wilder deals with him, and this uncharasmatic, cheeseburger inhaling, fraud of a champion is done with.
     
  2. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He took at least 3-5 huge left hooks counterpunches from BS during their second fight

    If his jaw wasn't solid the first would have finished him
     
  3. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    good.. a hype jobs first step up in competition should not be PPV. u should earn the right to be on PPV.
     
  4. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Stiverne used to weight between 245-255 lbs in many of his fights, so 239 lbs not that bad. He is just naturally build like that. Its heavyweight, not lightweight.
     
  5. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's obviously going for the added fat brings added power, which given the circumstances is prob a gd idea...

    He hardly needs to b conditioned for 12 rounds in this fight

    What did he weight vs Arreola?

    He's gonna maul Wilder on the inside too, the extra weight will also help his punch resistance
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    The funny thing is that a couple here see this as a return of the Americas on the big heavyweight stage... there's seriously something wrong here
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    It comes to something when people can make an argument that prime Kevin Johnson would have been a better champ than the current WBC boss.

    Would have certainly been more charismatic.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fact is neither of them is a draw at this moment in time. Wilder has been too heavily protected and there are too many questions about his ability for him to gain a serious following. Even Arreola who was protected at times before stepping up fought at a decent enough level to fool enough people to earn good money and be Vitali's most lucrative defence in his come back.

    Stiverne hasn't been promoted well, even King gave up on him at one point ans stopped arranging fights for him. He doesn't have a natural, nationalistic fan base and isn't the loud mouth self promoter that often gets attention.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It seems to be the norm for many heavies in this era. In reality for Stiverne this is good shape, he's often been heavier, he debuted at 233lbs only 6lbs lighter so he's prepared as well as he's ever done for Wilder but clearly like so many other heavies we have seen in this era he could benefit from a nutritionist in his team instead of following diets by Ronald McDonald or Colonel Sanders.
     
  10. Mr. Iron Chin

    Mr. Iron Chin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The American boxing fan base is dead. People need to get that into their head. they're more into **** like WWF. A block of lunatic Mayweather fan boys does not count as a respectable boxing fan base for the sport. It's time we all accept that Europe is the new Mecca of boxing.
     
  11. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People also probably know that

    a) It will very possibly only last a round or 2 - They mightn't want to pay their money for a few minutes of action or to see someone fall with the first meaningful punch landed

    b) The winner will only be a titlest and not the champion in the division
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just found the weights for the Arreola fights: "He weighed 248 when he fought Arreola last year and came in at 239 1/2 for the fight tomorrow. "

    So for Wilder he's 239 again, seems like same weight for Arreola II fight.
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't undestand for the life of me why a belt holder like Stiverne doesn't get a conditioning coach and dietician to control his diet year around. I mean it's not a rocket science. Cut out the junk food and eat clean. This is your profession, so deal with it professionally.
     
  14. Mr. Iron Chin

    Mr. Iron Chin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The paying casual public that care about things like that though. Look how many fake belts Manny and Mayweather have scooped up over the years.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    True it would definitely help him in the long run, it would also help if he fought more than once a year. He's basically been sitting on his **** for 9 months of every year doing nothing.
     
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