Eubank Sr: Jones Jr and McCallum were scared, against Calzaghe was shot

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by atberry, Jan 22, 2015.



  1. Buonaparte

    Buonaparte Active Member Full Member

    868
    1
    Sep 18, 2014
    Very true. I remember refusing to watch many of his defences as they were not competitive. Even then Eubank sometimes struggled and laboured away to a home town decision. Poor output every round and excessive posturing made for a tedious spectacle for the real fight fan.
     
  2. KelandBeave

    KelandBeave Fab 4 Full Member

    3,192
    601
    Jun 27, 2013
    He was better than Collins although getting beat by him, and he was slightly better than Benn in his prime.......... But Joe had the style to always win against him.
     
  3. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    9,565
    18
    Sep 30, 2009
    Sherry, Malinga, Jarvis, Essett, Giminez, Holmes (being 35, then considered old), Amaral, Storey and Schommer were terrible defences admittedly..
     
  4. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    9,565
    18
    Sep 30, 2009
    But he also fought real quality in Watson, Benn, Rocky, Thornton etc.. And flourished..
     
  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,057
    3,792
    Aug 2, 2013
    But then again, let's disect, say, the great legendary superman Joe Calzaghe and his 'resume'.

    Sobot, Thornberry, Starie, Veit, McIntyre, Jiminez, Pudwill, Mkrtchyan, Salem, Ashira and Manfredo were nowhere near the level of even the very worst challengers to Eubank's title - Sherry and Amaral. Sherry forced a draw with Doug DeWitt and Amaral gave Frankie Liles his toughest fight.

    Calzaghe fought these guys over a span of 10 years. Eubank fought Sherry and Amaral three years apart, with a stack of top talent inbetween - Watson twice, Benn, Malinga, Malinga-conqueror Jarvis, Calzaghe-like Stretch, Thornton, Lindell, Rocky etc etc. He fought Collins, robbed the first time. He beat Watson twice, fairly twice. Went to Germany to beat unbeaten Rocky. Never lost to a Benn at his best. Completely schooled Wharton for 12 rounds at top pace, etc etc.

    Jeff Lacy was just Henry Wharton, for christ sake. Kessler was just an average European robot, certainly no Rocchigiani who was completely robbed against Maske twice and Michalczewski, and blew away Hamsho (who peak Hagler struggled with) and beat Nunn (who peak Toney struggled with). Look what Ward did to Kessler, it wasn't even a race. Hopkins was, what, 45? And interestingly, as you say atberry, the press wrote Lindell Holmes off for being 35 against Eubank (incidentally Calzaghe's age before he had any respect or recognition).

    In fact, Lindell's win over Frank Tate betters any Hopkins win at middleweight. Don't give me Keith Holmes or William Joppy or blown-up lightweights. Tate was Olympic Gold medalist, on lb4lb lists, struggled with weight for the Nunn fight ala Toney against Jones, then fought Lindell a weight higher and was punched all over the ring. Nunn wouldn't go near Holmes, and neither would the Fab Four of the 80s. Eubank met him head-on and threw the kitchen sink from the opening bell! I mean proper punches where you turn the knuckle over, not winging (technically illegal) slap shots....
     
  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    68,964
    23,148
    Jul 26, 2004
    Awesome interview thank you for posting that
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    21,988
    6,083
    Sep 21, 2013
    Where is the source of this interview?
     
  8. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,529
    382
    Jul 16, 2012
    That's not what he said, you consistantly misrepresent Chris Eubank and his views. Practically every time you post the transcript of a Eubank interview you put it under a headline which does not represent what was actually said and is usually inflamatory and misleading.

    Honestly I'm beginning to think that you are deliberately trying to undermine Eubank and tarnish his name and reputation.
     
  9. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

    4,359
    1,380
    Jan 17, 2014

    comical :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

    41,974
    4,015
    Sep 22, 2010
    if he hadn't faded out so fast leaving his 20s then he'd be britains most accomplished smw ever easily. did too much too fast for his limited abilities.
     
  11. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

    10,798
    3
    Jul 20, 2004
    Can someone please shoot either Eubank or Atberry. Preferably Eubank.
     
  12. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    9,565
    18
    Sep 30, 2009
    I think Eubanks thing was to win six rounds of a fight and then back off and pose, turn his back and run if need be.. Lazy or smart? Bit of both.. The one guy in those title defences who wasn't intimated by his prescense and ring arrival was Ray Close, so he couldn't get away with posturing as much..

    Close was also the one guy to counter his occasional long loopy right hand, backing off & peppering with a few light shots. Eubank still won both Close fights clearly, though.. Malinga actually got caught with the loopy right and went over heavily, saved by the bell.. He beat Malinga clearly, too, with little effort