This Is An Illustration of Why Compubox #'s Should Be Banished

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    that just proved that bhop is a dirty piece of ****
     
  2. 1-Ton

    1-Ton Walking in the Light Full Member

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    More often than not, CompuBox numbers tell the story of the fight, and they did just that in the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight. Still, CompuBox has neither replaced or been implemented into the current scoring system (yet). So I don't see what use there is in complaining about it.
     
  3. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As others have mentioned, any headbut in the clip was Calzaghe's fault. Like he did throughout the fight, he was lunging around like a spastic mad slapper.
     
  4. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's obvious that Bernard took full advantage of how his opponent comes with his whirlwind of side punches. If someone comes right at ya winding up his shots, you are supposed to keep your chin down and fire back with authority, that's how it was, is and should be... Therefore, the headbutt was accidental. Bernard put his head in there on purpose in the 11th and Richie Woodhall pointed it out on the Setanta telecast. One last thing, the clip doesn't tell the story of the fight since Joe started finding Bernard's chin with straight, accurate and sharp left hands from round 5 on.
     
  5. Tunney5

    Tunney5 Active Member Full Member

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    You carefully chose a certain few seconds of the fight to prove something that's not true overall!

    I remember those particular moments, but most of the REST of the time Joe's punches were landing much better than that.
     
  6. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amen. Well said. Hopkins is a dirty, dishonest, cheat. Rounds 10-12 would have played out very differently without Bernard taking his breaks. Calzaghe would have posted a much more impressive win, but Hopkins denied him that by blatantly cheating.
     
  7. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In round 2. Calzaghe never said he was a Saint, and he was honest enough to own up to that particular foul. You'll never hear Hopkins admit to anything wrongdoings; the guy is still a crook - he just plies his trade in the ring now rather than the streets.
     
  8. ad82

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    Hopkins was shattered when he took the break. Nothing hurts more in boxing than fatigue. Have you ever boxed yourself? I have and I can tell you that Hopkins was absolutely shattered and knew he needed to buy time...which he did by cheating.
     
  9. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Enzo Calzaghe was correct right before round 10 when he told Joe that Hopkins was ready to be stopped. Joe was starting to take over and Hopkins blatantly cheated. Would Joe have stopped Hopkins without the 3 minute break? Maybe. Probably not, but he'd have enjoyed his best moments of the fight.
     
  10. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kessler Vs Hopkins at 175 - who wins?
     
  11. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Show me how the compubox "scorers" scored that exact exchange, then we can discuss whether you have a point.

    If you don't know how they scored that exact exchange, your entire argument is based on how you think they might be scoring.

    WTF?



    :blood
     
  12. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    quoted for truth
     
  13. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    THE LOW BLOW WAS NOT CHEATING.

    end of story.

    The replay shows he was hit low. Was it that hard? Maybe not, we weren't in there to feel it though, were we.

    The rules state he has up to 5 minutes to recover, he took 2 1/2, well within the rules.

    Joe shouldn't of strayed low and given him the rest, last I checked, Bernard didn't throw that punch, Joe did. It landed low, he played it up a bit, got a rest. End of story.

    Same with the headbutts, you come in like a slap-happy mongoloid you're gonna get headbutted when the guy tucks his chin, fact of life. Every headbutt was Joe leading and lunging.

    You guys act like all the dirty stuff was Bernard, but Joe was as dirty or WORSE than Bernard, how many times did he rabbit punch? A lot. Hitting to the back? Quite often. Hitting on the break? Yup. Low blows? Yup.

    **** you Calzaghe nuthuggers who can't admit your guy got a lucky assed win that could have gone either way.

    I'm not even that big of a Hopkins fan, but I just can't stand by and listen to you guys spew this sewage out of your mouths.
     
  14. ad82

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    It was not a low blow...a low blow needs to have sufficient force (check the rules for the definition of what is classified as a punch). That 'blow' would not have scored had it landed on the chin so it was not a low blow. Hopkins is a cheat.
     
  15. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've had this argument with a buddy of mine 1000 times. I don't need compubox to tell me who won a fight, my eyes do.