from looking at this thread i still dont get a good answer for cherrypick. so i bumped it, you guys can put your input
taking a fight with someone when there is a much better option that is available. if the number 2 guy is calling your name and you are number 1, and there are no issues in getting the fight made and you go and take on the number 3 4 or 5 without a valid reason well i would consider that a cherry pick even though your opponent is still highly regarded when you have a situation like garcia v salka.. thats just ****ing disgraceful...
Boxing cherry pick= finding an opponent with a decent looking record yet lacks something that would make him a betting favorite or make the betting odds close to even. Most of the time it's usually a featherfisted opponent. Sometimes it's a good old fighter who is just hanging around too long e.g. Lyakohovich.
Wlad is not a "cherry picker", sorry. He takes the odd fight that would be considered an easy matchup by his standards but he can't exactly fight multiple opponents in one night, can he? He has to make his way through the list of opponents one by one, knocking them out or thoroughly beating them. People wanted him to fight Haye, he did. Povetkin, did. Pulev, KO'd.... There is always going to be the next guy in line and the haters will say " Yeah so what Wlad has knocked out 53 fighters, he has to take on (insert name here).
Joe Calzaghe is the epitome of this from Eubankmto Kessler look at the stiffs he fought for about 10 yrs a decade of stiffs to pad your record Thats Cherry picking !
Cherry picking in my eyes is choosing the lesser or two evils. But I wouldn't label everything a cherry pick like some people do. Take Danny Garcia vs Mauricio Herrera. People scream "cherry pick" prior to the fight. Afterwards, they want a rematch. But I thought it was a cherry pick? You can't call it a cherry pick while still crying for a rematch. Garcia vs Salka was indeed a cherry pick. Then there's the logic that everyone Mayweather fights is a cherry pick because it isn't Pacquiao. That's garbage. Because if that's the case, Pacquiao is cherry picking too. There is no black and white when it comes to cherry picking, it's all a grey area and mostly opinion. Too many fights are mislabeled as cherrypicks.
Here's MY definitions Cherry pick: Carefully selecting an opponent as a showcase fight; selecting the least "risky" fighter; purposely choosing a lower ranked opponent; selecting an opponent that is at a stylistic disadvantage. Exceptions It is not considered a cherry pick if the opponent at a stylistic disadvantage but has a belt or is top contender. If they are ranked appropriately, there's nothing you can do about them having a stylistic disadvantage. It is not a cherry pick if "politics" prevents a fight It is not a cherry pick if availability prevents a fight It is not a cherry pick if the supposed "riskier" fighter is ranked lower than the alleged cherrypick (if the riskier fighter is so good, rank up) There's plenty more. Now the next one: Duck: Finding an illegitimate excuse or reason not to fight someone who is A) a top ranked contender, B) in the path of the "duckee", or C) a mandatory. There can be various motives and ANYBODY can duck. I know the most common example which will be brought up time and time again. Mayweather/Pacquiao, Floyd has had his excuses and has at times, ducked. But when Pacquiao ends negotiations to fight Clottey, that's a duck. I'm sorry, but it is.
but what if your so good theres nobody you can pick that makes the odds close?? I mean Mayweathers closets odds were against Canelo at -260, which means good luck to the other fighter. but how does that mean a cherry pick?? What if the man is that good?? by your deftintion pac would be a cherry pick because right now Mayweather is -300 against him, but we all know it isnt a cherry pick. Crazy to define right?? Thats why i dont like the damn words at all
good post! and yes I feel the same way. when Pac didnt fight Floyd and took on Clottey expect for Lineal champ in Mosley thats a duck plain and simple