Marvin Hagler vs This list of fighters

Kimbo Slice holds the clear edge in a P4P sense to all of the above mentioned fighters.

 

Absolutely

A fighter from Detroit I used to spar with, Mickey Goodwin, was slated to fight Hagler in '82 instead of Caveman Lee, but he suffered hand injuries during training. He would have starched Hagler:yep

 

Thing is i was only half joking.

he actually was better than all of the Brits on the list at the very least.

So was alan Minter.


McCallum was also nowhere near Hagler at his best; far too east to hit, had great issues with movers and slower hands than the Hagler that fought Leonard.Struggled terribly over the last six rounds against collins,made to look like Tito by kalambay, another laboured struggle with Graham etc...

Yet he's going to push Hagler at his best close?.It would be a near-shutout loss for a fighter who's legacy benefited greatly from association by revisionist history with the greats he never got to fight.

 

I disagree with this, though I usually find you to be one of the best posters. Still do, I just disagree in this case. In a head to head sense, I don't consider Minter better than Eubank or Watson, considering they were natural 168 pounders.

 

It's interesting and refreshing to finally see a critical eye cast over McCallum. He sorta cruises along under the radar and seldom faces the microscope others do. He's a damn good fighter but i agree he would suit Hagler quite well.

 

Not sure about that. I'd say lean towards 'middleweights'. Watson for obvious reasons. He only had one fight at the weight, which was his fight with Eubank for the vacant WBO super-middleweight title. He did slightly weigh over the middleweight limit for non-title fights. Eubank had more title fights at super-middleweight, so many people might see him as that being his natural weight.

 

Let's not forget that Eubank couldn't deal with a southpaw stance. It wouldn't be 50/50.

Let's not also forget that Eubank couldn't deal with a fighter who could pressure for three minutes of each round without flinching.

It wouldn't be 80/20.

 

I would pick Eubank to out point point him (although I don't believe he would be favored)...Watson and McCallum to give him a very close battle to end in SD/MD or draw...I don't believe any of the rest would hang w/ him...Toney and Nunn might have a good shot at an upset (but I don't see it). McClellan, Jackson and Benn could possibly go the route of of the Mugabi fight, closely contested w/ marvin finishing them off...IMHO>

 

Some good calls but I think many on this forum are selling Graham a little short. At his peak the guy was a defensive genius in the sense that it was impossible to lay a glove on him. I think the peak version of Graham (not the one that fought McCallum or even Jackson) would give Hagler a lot of problems and although I think Hagler's workrate and Graham's negative style would mean that Hagler would win over the distance. It would be close and ugly though.

 

You are drastically overrating Hagler, if vito Auntofermo takes him to a (deserved) draw then you can bet some of the above fighters would hang an L on his ledger.

 

If you're case is based on the Anuofermo draw then come back again with something better.

Styles make fights and I'm giving many of the fighters mentioned a great shot at beating Hagler. If you actually read very carefully I did say McCallum gives him so close a fight he'd eek of the decision. Probably controversial as well I'd like to add. And I did state that Nunn and Graham would be leading on the cards down the stretch before Hagler turned up the heat late to stop them both.

I would like to think that anyone reading my views on Hagler against all those fighters would come to the conclusion its all constructed and fair opinions not too wide of the mark for each fight. I'm not biased and I don't think it shows. If I said Hagler would knockout every fighter on the list within 6 rounds, then yeah.

 

Because of his loss to Calzaghe at that late stage of his career?

Agreed, Benn was surely a boxer/mover.

As for Michael Watson, I was off on that one, he was a MW through and through, I had his bout with Benn pinned as a SMW bout, which is why I confused the weight.

 

He looked very disjointed against Gary Stretch and Dan Schommer, being outboxed and out-pointed by both - he couldn't seem to get in position to jab and his right hand turned into a roundhouse. It was the southpaw stance on both occasions. And against Calzaghe.

 

Watson in their second fight. Watson was winning every minute of every round after the fourth, because Eubank lacked quick-thinking abilities and stamina (carrying too much muscle).

Benn did a lot of feinting on the outside against Eubank.

 

At 160 he beats all