Your top fifteen American heavies.

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    Makes sense. h2h, how do you see him on that list? At this point i'd have to favor him against crude Washington, and Molina.. He's got a real shot at beating Ruiz if he can survive the early rounds. Probably beats Oquendo in a rematch as well. He's turned into a really solid, and respectable journeyman in recent years.. On his A-game he can trouble some world level guys, and even beat some fringe-world level types, and prospects. I think he caught Glazkov on a bad night, but that was still a very impressive performance, thought he lost decisively, cards were too wide for my liking but the end result was the right one.
     
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    Yeah h2h probably slightly higher, just inside or @ 10. :thumbsup
     
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    So is Lennox in fact really the Canadian heavyweight GOAT? :think

    He developed his skills there. :deal
     
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    Wilder - Proved he belongs, but I doubt he'll have a long stay
    Jennings - Big, can box, solid. Wlad Ko's him next.
    Thompson - If he beats Solis, he can hang around here.

    Those are the only top 10-20 level heavyweights.

    After that, does it really matter much? The rest are on the decline, in fact so it Thompson. So I'd rater focus on up and comer's.

    Dominic Breazeale represented the USA in the Olympics. He's big, and can hit. Moderately talented. If managed correctly he can get ranked by a alphabet organization.

    Trey Lippe. Tommy Morrison's son. Fast, and with his father's left hook!. A football player who crossed over to boxing, he has some things going for him.

    Aaron Green. 16-0. Never saw him fight.
     
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    Once you get into the "who comes from where" argument, it leads to insanity.

    Chisora
    Martisoyan
    Kid Galahad
    Stiverne
    Bika
    Huck
    Abraham
    Vitali
    Lewis
    Stevenson
    Lee
    Donaire
    Perez
    Hide
    Stieglitz
    Bugner

    Are all guys who you could('ve) claim are one nationality or another.

    Its literally mad to simply claim one or the other.

    Ive seen dozens of pages dedicated to arguing over what nationality Lennox Lewis really was.

    Mike Perez is Cuban....Hes also Irish. Whats wrong with saying that?
     
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    Once you get into the "who comes from where" argument, it leads to insanity.

    Chisora
    Martisoyan
    Kid Galahad
    Stiverne
    Bika
    Huck
    Andy ruiz
    Abraham
    Vitali
    Lewis
    Stevenson
    Lee
    Donaire
    Perez
    Hide
    Stieglitz
    Bugner

    Are all guys who you could('ve) claim are one nationality or another.

    Its literally mad to simply claim one or the other.

    Ive seen dozens of pages dedicated to arguing over what nationality Lennox Lewis really was.

    Mike Perez(for example) is Cuban...Hes also Irish. Theres nothing wrong with being from 2 places.

    In the end, its up to nthe person to decide where to represent(If they even want to do that)
     
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    Prince Charles is the foremost up and comer, IMO.

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=530351
     
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    Even more than Jennings? Idk about that. But it's probably between those two.
     
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    Well no, if you count Jennings. I already consider him a contender though. I mean, he is one in every sense of the word since he is challenging Wlad :yep.
     
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    :good
     
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    Here you go ... top to bottom ... in order of who wins head-to-head.

    1. Deontay Wilder
    2. Bryant Jennings
    3. Dominic Breazeale
    4. Gerald Washington
    5. Steve Cunningham
    6. Amir Mansour
    7. Charles Martin
    8. Chris Arreola
    9. Tony Thompson
    10. Michael Hunter
    11. Shannon Briggs
    12. Fres Oquendo
    13. Antonio Tarver
    14. Malik Scott

    Damn ... where's Calvin Brock when you need him?
     
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    You don't think Oquendo and Tarver could box circles around Briggs? Scott might be able to - and then again might find a soft place to lie down the first time he feels even a particularly heavy blocked punch.

    I certainly don't see Briggs knocking either of those guys out.

    ...and Thompson would school Arreola.

    Mansour is a tad high, and Martin a bit low (certainly ought to be in the same neighborhood as Breazeale or Washington)

    Otherwise pretty decent h2h list. :good


    Cunningham is certainly top five, and the #1 and #2 are Wilder and Jennings any way you slice them - although Thompson is a wild card in any h2h match-up. He should probably be a lot higher.
     
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    Horrible list. Gerald Washington and Breazeale both lose to SEVERAL guys listed below them, I suggest you go and watch both of their fights with Nagy Aguilera, very limited ceilings for the both of them. Especially Washington. Briggs is ranked way too high as well, Tony Thompson is ranked shockingly low.
     
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    1. Chambers?
    2. Thompson
    3. Cunningham
    4. Jennings
    5. Arreola
    6. Mansour
    7. Wilder
    8. Tarver
    9. Ruiz
    10. Washington
    11. Molina
    12. Martin
    13. Scott
    14. Abell
    15. Briggs

    Briggs would be higher if he actually went after someone other than Waldo, its clear that Klitschko is fed up with his **** and isn't going to give him a match.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    Based on what? Smashing cans?