The guy with the bigger muscles doesn't always win the fight. These guys are professional boxers, not strongman competitors or bodybuilders. Primo Carnera was probably physically stronger than all the guys you mentioned, but he'd probably lose to all of them, too.
Bowe was tall (6'5") but never looked physically strong to me; he had sort of a Larry Holmes-type of body, sort of pudgy and long; not much muscle definition or muscle size. But Bowe could hit pretty hard, so he wasn't lacking in power. Bowe was a couple inches taller than Lyle and Foreman. Rahman could carry a lot of weight on his frame without looking fat; sort of like Lamon Brewster -- thick, powerful guys.
Not really. You could say Ron Lyle was small compared to old-school fighters like Buddy Baer and Primo Carnera, too. Those guys were back in the '30s, '40s, so obviously big guys existed back then, too.
agree,but when guys are about even when it comes to skill,size helps...larry holmes is weak with his 210 lbs when compared with klits,lewis or bowe.they outweigh him by 30-35 pounds,that's a lot! how would he hold his own in a clinch?plus these guys have good coordination for their size and good skils,they aren't slow uncoordinated oafs with no skills
Lyle would absolutely not be "ragdolled" by either guy. He was 220 prime, not overweight, announced at teh start of the Foreman fightRahman was softer at 235, nei the guy was more tha 15 lbs. heavier, very different from "25-30 lbs. of muscle".
:good This is how I see it. There is something wrong if it's rare to see current heavyweights overcome a reach disadvantage within an entire division. Think about it, too big to slip a jab. There is something wrong when age is no longer the disadvantage it used to be. Older fighters finding a comfort zone against younger guys. Youth, skills and pace should overcome experience. It used to. How can that be progressive?
and we've had 3 skilled super heavyweights. you guys all over react because of lewis and the klitschkos. it comes down to smaller guys not having the heart or skill to defeat these giants. chris byrd was tiny, by your standards but gutted out a win over vitali because he didn't give up. eddie chambers beat a 6'7 guy. david haye beat valuev, who size wise intimidated a lot of small guys. there doesn't need to be a super heavyweight division or a dreadnought division or whatever. if there were, you'd see nothing but tall guys weighing 250 throw 15 punches a round along with lots of clinching.
I would say there has been four skilled super heavyweights. Add Bowe's name. Then add up the decisions the four lost. There was only one! Byrd only won because of an injury. Valuev was not a skilled super heavyweight.
