Golovkin : Monroe Jr. :: Klitschko : Jennings

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  1. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monroe beat up brandon adams, thats pretty impressive. great fight even if no ko
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    :bloodYou're lying and.......

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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    HW is a weaker division.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yes I can't disagree. HW is the weakest or perhaps better than one or two divisions at the moment. But MW is also in the bottom third of the divisions easily without even thinking about it (so, bottom 6, I guess).

    MW doesn't have much depth and the elite fighters are Golovkin, Cotto (1-0 at the weight), Andy Lee, and Pete Quillin.

    Wladimir and Povetkin are a better top 2 combo and miles ahead of whomever you rank top 2 at MW. And then the guys beyond Quillin/Lee/Cotto have comparable HW's to stack up to in Pulev/Wilder/Fury (yes, two may be jokes but in terms of accomplishment and relative to the division). It's not quite as overwhelming of a difference as many would assume right now.

    I'll go as far as to say that resume-wise, beating Jennings right now is a clear (although not a complete landslide) better P4P win than beating Monroe would be, easy.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    ^ I agree with that but only because Jennings has been given more chances.

    Give him opportunities against the same comparative level of competition at MW that Jennings has fought at HW the last couple of years, and I project Monroe would do just as well based on his outings so far. h2h they aren't dissimilar trophies for Golovkin and Klitschko to pick up, although yes Jennings has a deeper resume by virtue of having spent more time mixing at that level (as opposed to being outright p4p better than Monroe, which I suspect he isn't) .
     
  7. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Not sure what kind of comparison is ongoing, but:

    Klitschko is the undisputed longtime champion.

    Jennings is a legit top 10 contender (unlike Glazkov for example).

    Golovkin is the acknowledged MW champion.

    Monroe Jr seems like an up and coming prospect.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :good

    Jennings has done more and crossed the line from prospect to contender, no doubt.

    Just a few bouts ago, though, he hadn't yet.

    Monroe's eleven month sudden-s****om run of Bondorovas, Kopylenko, Adams, & Vera is very comparable to Jennings' similar under-a-year tear of Byarm, Liakhovich, Collins, Koval, and Tupou - in fact, maybe a little better. It wasn't until Perez and Szpilka (and to a lesser extent Fedosov) that Jennings proved himself a top contender. Monroe is being fast-tracked into the Golovkin shot but if he were brought along slower he'd be on the same path as Jennings and probably able to defeat top middleweights comparable to Fedosov/Szpilka/Perez (after which haters would still find reason to complain about him as undeserving to discredit Golovkin...)
     
  9. millertime1367

    millertime1367 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jennings seems to have good movement and is definitely motivated by this opportunity; I think the first couple rounds will be interesting if not competitive.

    While Wlad always has great motivation and preparation; i believe him when he says his status as a new father as well as a return to MSG have him on another level.

    Looking forward to the Klitschko Show and Wlad turning up as a monster.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Monroe has looked pretty damn impressive in the past year and a half far more so than Martin Murray did in fact before he got the GGG match. Murray didn't look great in beating Bursak, he should have lost to Khomitsky, and didn't look great against Spada.

    Yet Willie has easily beaten Bondrovas, Adams, Kopylenko and Vera, which as annoying as it was to me since I'd picked Vera to expose him, he still looked damn good, everybody wants to see GGG with a slick defensive fighter and when they get their wish, they still b****.
     
  11. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    there both good fights imo. but there are better ones out there .
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I do second that completely.

    However I just make a conscience effort to separate my projections and opinions from what has actually already occurred. Otherwise I'd turn into the average ESB goblin poster.
     
  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I like the Golovkin-Monroe fight.

    Golovkin 5'10 1/2", 70"
    Monroe 5'10", 74"

    Golovkin will be fighting a slick, prime boxer with a longer reach that moves and counters. It'll be extremely interesting to see how Golovkin handles this. Ultimately I think Golovkin wins but looks poor at times. Although I'm sure Golovkin will find his target in round 2 or 3 and wobble him enough to slow him down, making the rest of the fight a cake walk.

    Golovkin TKO5

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    I like Jennings but I don't give him a shot in hell against Klitschko.

    Klitschko 6'6", 81"
    Jennings 6'3", 84"

    I think for Jennings to pull off the upset he needs to jab his way in, slip a counter if it comes, and work the body on the inside. He has the longer reach but I think Klitschko fights better on the outside and... that right hand..... Jennings needs to avoid the right and go downstairs. And when he's "inside" working the body he should disguise a hook to look low and bring it up while Klits' hands are down.

    Klitschko TKO9

    Note: I'm no pro obviously, just a fans perspective.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

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    :yep
     
  15. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Theyre both underrated fights, particularly Monroe.

    While Smoak is correct to point out that in terms of resume they are nothing special, an examination of their abilities in the ring also shows that they are competent professionals.

    As far as ranking, Monroe is high on the alphabet soup lists now.. and I think will make accepted top10 if/when TBR and Ring get around to removing the detritus from their lists. (Sturm, Soliman, Martinez, Taylor no business being ranked at this point)