Who do you rate as the best Light Heavyweight of all-time?

NY Morning Telegraph: Greb won 10 of 15 rounds[/b]
NY Evening Mail: "Decision depriving Greb of LHW Crown Calls for Sweeping Inquiry"
Newark Star Eagle: Gave Tunney only the 14th round
Newark Evening News: Greb gave Tunney as bad a beating as the first fight, it was one of the worst decisions handed out since the Walker Law
Jersey Journal: The only round Tunney won decisively was the 14th.
Standard Union:After weird decision Tunney is LHW Champion: Judges decide against Greb who had lead on points
NY Sun: Gave Tunney the fight because Tunney scored more points yet then states that Greb scored more points but that the writer took points away because Greb clinched too often...
The NY Evening Telegram: Gave the fight to Tunney
NY American: gave it to Tunney
NY Times: gave it to Tunney
NY Evening World: Scored it a Draw and added that Tunney did not deserve the victory despite the writer stating he was a great admirer of Tunneys
NY Tribune: called it a draw stating the decision met with much disapproval, writing for the same paper Grantland Rice called it a poor decision
NY Herald: Gave it to Greb, another writer for the paper called it a draw
Evening Journal: Gave it to Greb
Evening Mail: Gave it to Greb
Philly Ledger: Gave it to Greb
NY Daily News: Stated a draw would have been a better decision.
Pittsburgh Post: Gave Tunney only two rounds.
Pittsburgh Gazette Times: Gave it to Greb
Pittsburgh Press: Gave it Greb

Bill Muldoon chairman of the NYSAC stated it was a bad decision.

Thats 4 votes for Tunney, 15 votes for Greb, and 4 votes for a draw. So in essence 19 of 23 ringside opinions listed above believed Greb should not have left the ring without his crown. Thats pretty overwhelming particularly considering the strong words used in most of those articles saying things like "robbery" and calling for an investigation, etc. Lets also keep in mind that this was Tunney's hometown and the majority of those papers were hometown papers for Tunney.

 

Excellent info!:good

 

I would say 3-2 for Tunney, which includes the 2nd fight robbery. It should be noted that Tunney fought the 1st Greb fight with a broken nose and gashes on his face after a very rough first round. The crowd applauded Tunney for going the distance.

A few facts that are seldom discussed.

Tunney was up for a 6th fight! Greb declined.

I would say these fights happened when Greb was at his best, and Tunney was still improving. Indeed Tunney had only been a pro for four years before the first match.

I wish there was film here, but I would say that Greb had a style advantage over Tunney. The swarmer who throws more punches usually beats the boxer type. Tunney later adapted and said you have to fight Greb, not box him hammering him with body shots when the action was close.

 

I'm afraid you have it a tad backwards. It was Greb who was up for a 6th fight. Tunney declined because he was up for a shot at Dempsey. Greb never "declined" a fight in his life.

Greb was blind in one eye and absolutely not at his best for this series, especially not the latter bouts. Tunney had already had over 40 bouts against some very experienced opposition. So nobody can imply that he was green for the series with Greb.

 

It's Ezz.

It is so, totally, clearly Ezz.