Mayweather's reluctance to throw punches while on the ropes

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  1. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really !! I have no doubt that Corrals at 135 beats the Pac at 135.. You really need to stop with Light years ahead bull ****.. Apparently Pac was not light years ahead of Marquez.

    Pac is a great fighter which is evident, but he is not a god, also the fighting style Pac has been using is for some one younger, and pac is no longer young.

    The Older pac gets the more he will need to fall back on fundamentals which Pac lacks.
     
  2. kamkam6

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    Yep his punch didn't have no snap on them.
     
  3. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny fans are a funny bunch. We'll see who's more accurate on May 2nd.
     
  4. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also gasses now for magical unexplained reasons but hey.
     
  5. the factor

    the factor Active Member banned Full Member

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    Mayweather only counters single shots. He goes to the ropes because he's being attacked. He goes into a defensive mode and holds or uses the forearm.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have it all wrong.It is Floyd's safety first approach.

    Counterpunching on the ropes ? that is James Toney:smoke
     
  7. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch how tied Pac gets after the 3th round. Target practice all night.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Aside from the one round that he completely gave away to Cotto, he battled Cotto well off the ropes.

    He also fought well on the ropes against Maidana despite Maidana being the caveman brute he is and throwing a crazy number of punches. As big a deal as everyone likes to make of Mayweather/Maidana I Round 1, I thought he was digging in well to the body and few of Maidana's punches landed in a legal, scoring area on him.
     
  9. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    He doesn't even throw back while the fighter gets on the ropes Pac will take advantage of this as roach has said:yep

    even cotto managed to bust him up against the ropes made his nose bleed and landed few shots
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Because Bradley just stood there and took it lol you're so stupid
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Wrong.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Do you ever have anything intelligent to say? :think
     
  13. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's true but haven't u already posted this
     
  14. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually agree. Can you show me instances of Mayweather countering in between fast/average speed combinations? From my recollection and studying Floyd's fights, he likes to counter 1-2 combinations. That's his bread and butter. However, if 4 shots are thrown at him, and if they are at a decent speed, he'll either a) roll them off his shoulder and block or b) throw up the high guard and walk straight back to the ropes or c) clinch. A usually happens with the orthodox fighters and for 3 punch combinations. B usually happens if 1 punch gets in & the fighter continues to throw, if it's a barrage of punches, or they are southpaw. C is also used against fighters, BUT he didn't or at least couldn't use it against slicker fighters, and he won't be able to clinch Pacquiao.

    Now when he walks back to the ropes, he will counter in between their pressure if they are slow combinations. It can be a trap. Floyd uses the ropes to take rests while also allowing his opponent to tire out. This is what he did for Maidana. Floyd did what he usually did and would back to the ropes when Maidana connected and then "flurried". He was so slow that Floyd was able to counter in between the shots and it also tired Maidana out.

    With anyone with fast or average hand speed though, he treats it different. Against Judah, Ortiz, and Mosley he high guarded at the ropes. He sometimes attempted to roll their shots off on the ropes, but this always got him caught. I don't know if it's intentional or instinctive mistake, but he got caught by Judah doing it and by Ortiz.

    So, all in all, I agree. Mayweather will not counter in between Pacquiao's flurries. It's one thing to counter Maidana in between 5 punches that takes 6 seconds to throw, but it's another to counter Pacquiao in between 5 punches that takes 1 second to throw. He won't. That's a risk Floyd has never took or will take. He waits till after they are done throwing to counter, especially against a flurrier like Pacquiao. This could actually be a bad thing though. Plus, keep in mind, Maidana was orthodox, so Mayweather is able to also counter in between their slow flurries because he can see everything. Against southpaws, he only has his peripheral since vision is reduced by the high guard. That's going to suck when your opponent is also southpaw. So, your vision is reduced, you can only see outside your peripheral when your trying to see someone who's faster than you, southpaw, and extremely awkward.

    It's just a really, really tough stylistic matchup. All credit in the world if Mayweather can beat him. Ropes is an absolutely death trap. He's gotta stay off them at all costs.
     
  15. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    stood there and took it?

    Mayweather does the same thing on the ropes you think he counters back when he is on the ropes?