what is Framptons problem?

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  1. power_aids

    power_aids Active Member Full Member

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    coming out saying he could earn more that the 1.5m if the fight was on sky box office, which he was trying his best to avoid happening... What is the real problem this fight cant get made? :blood
     
  2. dhoni182

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    Scott Quigg could potentially get paid more than 1.5 mil depending on PPV sales. I think Cyclone Promotions are just holding out to get the right deal. Frampton is the A-side going into this fight and should be treated as such, he is the champion. I think the fight will happen but hopefully in time for July.
     
  3. ant-man

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  4. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    They are being treated as the A-side.

    1.5m is the largest purse in history for a fighter at that weight and Frampton will not earn that against anyone else.

    Quigg is not getting that. His earnings are dependant on buys and thats a risky move but he is willing to risk it in order to make the fight happen.

    Frampton and his team are acting more like A-holes than the A-side.
     
  5. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quoting from the Scene:

    By Terence Dooley

    "Belfast’s Carl Frampton has once again outlined his reasons for not taking up Eddie Hearn’s offer of a guaranteed 1.5 million pounds for a unification fight with Bury’s Scott Quigg. Hearn made the offer live on Sky Sports News earlier this week only to be rebuffed by Frampton via a release sent out by Clones Cyclone Promotions, Barry McGuigan’s promotional outfit.

    Frampton has used his column in today’s Northern Ireland Newsletter to explain why he doesn’t consider Hearn’s offer to be an enticing one. ‘On Tuesday at a press conference in Matchroom Sport’s headquarters, Eddie Hearn and Scott Quigg made me a very public offer to fight Quigg on Sky PPV, on July 18 in Manchester,’ wrote the IBF Super bantamweight champion.

    ‘They even produced a cheque with my name on it to the tune of £1.5 million. (I’m surprised it wasn’t one of those giant novelty cheques...). £1.5 million is undoubtedly a lot of money. But does that mean I should snap it up with both hands? Absolutely not, and there are a number of reasons why. It’s a flat rate offer, which means that no matter how well this fight does at the box office, this is the most I’ll receive. This will not, however, be the same case for Scott Quigg and Matchroom Sport. Many would agree this fight will do extremely well at the box office considering that in Eddie and Scott’s words, it’s one of two Super Fights in the UK. If PPV targets are reached this fight can bring in £10 million and potentially as much as £12 million. Once the broadcaster’s cut is deducted and other costs are dealt with, on the basis of this offer, the real winner of this fight in monetary terms will be Scott Quigg and Matchroom Sport.

    ‘Now, it doesn’t seem fair that the legitimate World Champion should travel to the challenger’s backyard, under his team’s terms and fight for considerably less money than him, does it? It’s not rocket science and there’s more to this offer than meets the eye. The bottom line is, without me Scott Quigg has very little options. Without Scott Quigg I have many. I would be very happy to continue my career in front of millions on ITV, with big paydays and perhaps a debut in the USA.

    ‘However, I really would love to silence Quigg, his team and the hundreds of fans that follow him once and for all. So please, the next time you make an offer, make it a realistic one.’

    Hearn respond immediately via his Twitter account when Frampton dropped a link to the column. ‘zzzz fact is we are putting offers on the table..and you aren't! If the offer is that bad then make us one?’ he Tweeted. ‘also..if it makes as much money as you stated in your link, why have you also turned down 60-40 for the winner?’"
     
  6. ant-man

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    :deal

    Which is why Quigg should forget all about Frampton now and fight Donaire.
     
  7. dhoni182

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    Making offers over twitter isn't the way things should be done. I don't know whats going on behind the scenes, hopefully they sort it.
     
  8. ant-man

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    Brilliant response. :D
     
  9. ant-man

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    It wouldn't have come to this if things hadn't already reached stalemate.
     
  10. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with Frampton on this one. Given that he is the real world champion (as these things go), and the 'A-side' of the event, it's not a sensible offer from Hearn.

    And then there is Eddie saying on twitter it would be a "waste of time" to meet with them again for negotiations. Yeah, refuse to meet with the other side... that's how serious promoters put fights together is it?
     
  11. Black_Rainbows

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    https://twitter.com/CWMCyclonePromo/status/585453391939264513


    Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn 23h23 hours ago

    It can! It's not about Cyclone and Matchroom it's about @scottquigg and @RealCFrampton


    CWM Cyclone Promo
    ‏@CWMCyclonePromo

    @EddieHearn @scottquigg @RealCFrampton @neilod130282 @MatchroomBoxing - if so, can you respond to our meeting requests??


    Eddie Hearn ‏@EddieHearn 23h23 hours ago

    @CWMCyclonePromo @scottquigg @RealCFrampton @neilod130282 @MatchroomBoxing waste of time. There's the offer £1.5m and you can co-promote
     
  12. Barry Smith

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    £1.5m for a fight like this is an amazing offer. Frampton is not going to make more than that any other way, he is deluding himself if he thinks otherwise.

    Some people have even been saying that Frampton should get £1.5m plus a 60/40 split of the PPV money:rofl. If that happened then Frampton could well earn more than Mosley did against Pacquiao (the ninth best selling boxing PPV of all time:rofl), Matchroom would go bump and Sky would probably ditch boxing all together for the foreseeable future as their budget has been blown and then some.
     
  13. ant-man

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    None of us are privy to the ins and outs but it seems to me Eddie's had enough of their shenanigans and is at the end of his tether.

    Quigg's side have always seemed the more transparent, communicative and up for this to me.

    I guess we'll see it one day, but not yet..
     
  14. Black_Rainbows

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    Even if it would be a career high pay day for him, I don't think that means that much here.

    If he is already earning nice enough money, which I assume he is because of the venues he can sell out, he is in a position to hold out for a better offer. In this case I would say it's holding out for a "fair" offer because I don't think Hearn is being realistic.
     
  15. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Whats a better offer? What better options does Frampton have? Make Hearn and Quigg a better offer . They can't

    His excuse is that he thinks the fight will bring in 12 million in PPV.

    It won't come near that. These guys are not house hold names.