Someone help me out : Miguel Cotto

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  1. Killer Instinct

    Killer Instinct Be formless, shapeless... Full Member

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    I think we all know Cotto is not a true middleweight. At least he looks like he is "testing the waters" by taking on a fully fledged middleweight in his next bout and not moving straight back down like a little bit-ch. I think if he gets by Geale, he may even fight GGG.....he is way too proud.
     
  2. Killer Instinct

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    Honestly speaking you can do that with any fighter's resume. The fact is, all the fighters I listed were world Champions at some point in their careers. Which tells you they are no pushovers.You're entitled to your opinion and I respect that.

    I actually think Cotto doesn't get enough credit. His skills are very subtle and he is a classy operator in and out of the ring.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

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    The Cotto fight was the end of Judah's prime IMO. Judah took a lot of punishment that night and that took the last remnants of his prime out of him.

    Judah had come off a nice stretch against Martell, Spinks, and Rivera where he looked as good as ever, then he lost to Baldomir and Mayweather. He had no business losing to Baldomir and I don't attribute that to Judah declining, it was his inconsistency coming out again (remember him almost losing to Pineda), and I do think he took Baldo lightly. He took a pretty good amount of punishment against Mayweather and then definitely took a lot against Cotto.

    After that, he was even looking slower as well.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Cotto is running from Golovkin, plus, Cotto is fighting Geale next whom Golovkin knocked out in 3 rounds. I told everyone that Cotto would not come near Golovkin........................
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    This is true but I can't help but think Cotto has been incredibly well marketed.

    Some people would have you believe he's an ATG. What runs against him for me isn't the names on his cv but rather the way he's won titles - the majority of which were vacant.

    This isn't to say I think Miguel isn't a world class operator / he clearly is but I think if you swap him and oscar around then Oscar prob cuts a swathe through his opponents whilst Cotto prob loses to a lot of ODLH's opponents handily. In another very recent era he wouldn't be so lauded.

    That's jus my opinion and as I say I am a fan although his increasingly diva-ish behaviour is becoming very tiresome.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    I agree...as said earlier, I put him in the "very good" category, a B+/A- fighter.

    I found it slightly annoying and ridiculous when there was discussion of him being an ATG after the Martinez fight and people would just say "first Rican to win titles in 4 divisions!".

    Do people actually look at the situations and eras in which he won his 4, and how El Radar won his 3? It's not even close, Benitez's titles were far more impressive.

    Despite his diva ways he's still one of my favorite fighters out there though, and I think he's been great for the sport for his opposition level and also being in a lot of exciting fights. Margarito 1 and Torres were two of the best fights of the decade.
     
  7. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto would had been better if He had a soldi trainer early in His carrer His uncle was not great and for Pac and Clottey He just trained for Himself with just a frined on His side, Roach is doing good stuff on Him sadly for Him He is already a faded boxer that needs to go down in weight. He would had beaten Margarito Trout and easily could had out boxed Clottey with a good trainer.
     
  8. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto quit in the Margarito fight and started to run away from Pac after the 4th round....the only cheat is Cotto, who cheats fans out of their money.

    You thought Cotto beat Trout? Time for some new glasses.
     
  9. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto always has the heart of a coward. No trainer can change that.
     
  10. kragz

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    Kneegel Cutto is a quit job
     
  11. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why because of the Margarito beat down He was taking a massive damage in that fight if He was a quitter He would already quit after the few punches that hurt Him, He was koed in that fight more than He quit. He took massive bombs form Torres and Corley, He was ahead with a freaking cut against Clottey and could had quit and take the decision early and He didn't quit in either of those fights. He took a beating in the Pac fight and didn't quit too. If you look His history simply said you don't know **** about boxing or you are simply a hater. Cotto is a warrior sadly for Him He became a pain to deal with Him.
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Yup. My thoughts exactly. A good friend of mine stated he thinks he runs through prime Quartey with ease. With ease. Why he thinks that I don't know.
     
  13. Just Rik

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    When it comes to Cotto most people to much stock in his loss to Pac. They fail to realize how badly his career was derailed when the Pac fight occurred. Not only were they able to catch Cotto with a rookie trainer, they caught with a trainer so awful, the trainer actually gave him instructions that benefitted Pac. Even after seeing how easily Cotto could out box Pac, he still had him brawl Pac. Add to that they were able to get him at a catch weight, completing a series of events for the fluke that occurred. I believe had his career not been derailed he would easily have been considered the second best of this generation.
     
  14. Chiko_Tech

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    Add problems legally with His wife and His uncle and His father conditioning.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He's a C - fighter but against opponents with gammy knees he's A + all the way.