Wlad Klitschko being called an all-time great is an insult

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now Dino will say Rahman was not prime.
     
  2. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is the greatest heavyweight since Ali...Hell, even Ali needed some gifts to beat Norton, Young, Jones.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    hes knocking on the door of ATG, but hes at best only going to be a minor and questionable one.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whether you like him or not, when a boxer dominates for as long as he has even in such a **** poor era you can't deny the fact he is an ATG heavyweight.

    Now this doesn't mean he is anywhere near the likes of Ali, Louis, Lewis etc in terms of ATG ranking but Wlad is clearly a great heavyweight. You have to recognise his dominance, he's been by far the best heavy for a decade now.

    I rank Wlad about 11th or 12th so he is knocking on the door the the top 10 and with a few more years of dominance he could break the top 10 for me. But he'll never rank top 5 for me no matter what he does. His resume is simply lacking a signature win. Can you name one Wlad victory that is memorable in a good way?

    Wlad had 2 possible signature fights that could have seen him shine and make an argument for a higher ranking. They were Haye and Povetkin, both were big fights both left the fans disappointed and gave his critics more ammunition.

    He refused to engage Haye and counter numerous oppenings Haye presented him. So many times Wlad chose not to pull the trigger and played it safe. I believe he could have KO'ed Haye had he wanted to. Then against Povetkin he gave a mixed performance, while he was aggressive and went for the KO he also clinched to level even he rarely does and tainted an otherwise good performance. Can you imagine if Ali had hugged and spoiled his way to a decision win over Foreman or ran from Liston to win on points? It not just who you beat but how you beat them and in both aspects Wlad fails.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Rahman was a late replacement for Povetkin. He took the fight on less than 2 weeks notice.

    And he as shot to bits.

    Is Berbick an ATG because he beat Ali?

    Were you under the impression you could get one over on me:huh
     
  6. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The strength of an era will always look weak if one guy shines out so much above the rest.

    Haye and Povetkin are two very good recent wins of Waldo imo.
     
  7. kovalevtheGoat

    kovalevtheGoat The Chelyabinsk Machine banned Full Member

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    Youre the one who thinks rahman is an atg, based on beating an ATG.

    :thumbsup
     
  8. fistycuffs

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    He's most assuredly a top 10 heavy weight.
     
  9. Ramon Dekkers

    Ramon Dekkers New Member Full Member

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    This

    If Klitschko was American everyone would've said that he's the best
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    You got one over on yourself when you posted...



    This is called self-ownage...

    Cooking your own goose...

    Shooting yourself in the foot...


    etc.



    Something you NEVER FAIL to do on this topic, your only close rival in the 'buffoon race' being HG.


    http://cloudfront-assets.reason.com/assets/mc/mwelch/2009_11/punchinface.jpg
     
  11. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    This will be Wlads 18th title defense if he wins. 20 will tie Larry Holmes. It would be cool for Holmes to be at that fight and congratulate Klitschko for equaling his record and praise Klitschkos achievement.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    there are literally dozens of boxers with wlad records of endless victories over fatboys, two good wins and about 3 losses to journeymen.

    you shouldtn ask questions that are too easy.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    That post was clearly made tongue-in-cheek.

    If Wlad is an ATG by dominance only , without looking at who those fighters were and the performances , i can make the same case for Rahman.

    Undisputed champ. Beat one of the greatest heavy weights ever. Clearly an ATG.

    There's more to evaluating greatness than paper stats.
     
  14. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan VIP Member Full Member

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    Use Metamucil for your impacted bowels, and make sure your partner is using the proper lubricant and allows you to use the restroom before yall engage yourselves.:good
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    You're yet to offer a valid post in your entire time in this site. You continually make a fool of yourself picking anyone and everyone to beat Wlad and then backtracking when your latest would be champion gets a shellacking.

    Now to the point in hand. I imagine that most champions of vastly previous eras would benefit from modern training methods, diet plans and the professionalism shown by the likes of Wlad.

    Secondly whether or not it's fair to have 210lb guys facing off against 240+ guys. Perhaps we need a superheavyweight division as size wise we are seeing match ups that wouldn't be allowed anywhere else in the world of boxing.