Teddy Atlas's Opinion Of Wlad.

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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'd back Tyson to beat the version of Vlad that was beaten by Sanders, and Brewster, but not the version that has since been sorted out by Steward. For all his faults Klitchko more resembles Douglas with the jab right hand than the big one trick hooker cut pony Ruddock. A few rounds of that and the mentally weak Tyson would quit fighting, and just take his beating for as long as he could.
     
  2. VVMM

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    Brewster beat w. klitschko in the Emmanuel Steward era.
    Sam Peter knocked down w. klitschko 3 times in the Steward era.
    D. Williamson knocked down w. klitschko in the Steward era.
    wladimir klitschko was far away from the perfection in the Steward era.
    He looks/looked vulnerable.
    His best wins (by decisions) against the glass-chinned skinny Haye(considering the old Carl Thompson destroyed Haye) and the fat Povetkin weren't too impressive things.
    Maybe the the "old" klitschko is better than the Puritty version but
    i don't know only one reason can prove this.
    I don't believe an older version fighter has better stamina,speed or punching resistance without PED.
     
  3. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe Atlas is biased but no problem because you're 100% objective and you are the biggest mind in the boxing.
    I think your lots of undisputed heavyweight title win prove this.
    Now we must kneel down before your god-given unlimited boxing
    knowledge.
     
  4. latineg

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    don't try to make Mendoza into a god just because he knows more than you, he is just a human being :good
     
  5. latineg

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    the point is that Manny taught Vlad how to be a safer boxer and more successful and that didn't just happen over 1 fight dude, nobody ever said it did :think
     
  6. ribtickler68

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    I agree with that, especially the last line. Vladimir virtually had a health problem when it came to stamina; a glaring deficiency that has miraculously disappeared!
     
  7. mcvey

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    The jury's still out on that one.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Haye fought just to survive ,its extremely hard to stop a man whose ambition runs out at the echo of the opening bell. Haye skinny? He has a great physique and at 210.5lbs was the same weight as Max Baer.
     
  9. mcvey

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    Steward's tutelage was a godsend to Wlad and a curse for the public.:lol:
     
  10. latineg

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    yes i agree with that :good
     
  11. latineg

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    jury is still out on Mendoza knowing more than vvmm or on being a human being? :lol:
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think I've read anything by VVMM that isn't a diatribe against Vitali or Lewis. I was referring to the second option really.
     
  13. latineg

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    yes well who really knows about any of us :good
     
  14. amhlilhaus

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    after watching somebody actually try and fight wlad with hardly any experience and not much more skill, the notion that this guy would dominate great heavyweights is a stretch. he ****s himself when anyone dares attack him, and he holds shamelessly. he should have gotten more points taken from him tonight, at least this ref tried to do his job.

    I see vitali doing better historically than wlad.
     
  15. The Predator

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    He would beat Primo Carnera, but that´s about it. He fight´s in a very, VERY weak era and I can´t see him survive three rounds with Ali, two rounds with Foreman and he would definetly not survive one round with Mike Tyson.
    He would be scared ****less even before the fight, beaten at the staredown before the bell and knocked out within 97 seconds.
    and yes, a prime Ali would have beaten a prime Mike Tyson