Swap Mayweather's and Pacquiao's opponents since 2009:

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  1. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did Bradley beat Pacquiao in their first fight in your opinion? If not, cut the #3 p4p lies. Thanks. You can't say "Pac was robbed," but then give Bradley his rating based on his fake win. Can't have it both ways.

    Attempt to supplement? Again:

    - 60% of his bouts at 147 have been against unranked opposition. That's just a fact.
    - 4 of his 10 bouts against men who had NEVER won a bout at 147 in their career.
    - ONLY TWO were actually coming off a win at 147: Cotto (catchweight), and Bradley. That is it!
    - Manny Pacquiao has only fought 1 man at the full weltwerweight limit of 147 pounds, with his opponent coming off a win at 147 pounds. ONLY ONCE!!! (Bradley II)

    But hey.... I'm sure if Floyd did the same thing you guys would be touting him as the greatest of all time. :nut:lol:
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :thumbsup

    i love meeting a logical human being on here!
     
  3. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    floyd vs canelo was a CW, nope bradley did not beat pac on both fights, still he is arguably p4p no. 3 at that time, in the mixed with floyd, marquez and pac :good
     
  4. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's #3 p4p after his loss to Pacquiao? I don't think so....The only reason he was rated that highly was due to the robbery.

    Bradley has accomplished next to nothing at 147 pounds. Completely unproven. Bradley has exactly 1 legitimate win over anybody at 147 who has actually won a fight at 147: a 40 year old Marquez, who's only win at 147 at that time was his KO of Pacquiao.

    Nobody who is looking at Bradley objectively will rate him that highly. Somebody who wants to "prop up Pacquiao's resume" will over-rate Bradley.
     
  5. Beenie

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    Canelo would have been steep challenge for Pac.

    Conversely, Margarito and Clottey would have given Floyd all kinds of problems.
     
  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope

    And nope, nope.
     
  7. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the Cotto that Pacquiao fought would have had a good chance of beating Mayweather

    Also, I think Alvarez would have had a good chance at beating Pacquiao
     
  8. Beenie

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    Pac exchanging with Canelo would have been an interesting sight.

    Conversely, Floyd on the ropes against Margarito trying to shoulder roll and parry would have been an interesting sight.
     
  9. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no **** sherlock bradley was rated p4p not by me :good
     
  10. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok. So we're in agreement that his p4p rating wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. :good

    That fight against Pacquiao was one of the weirdest scorecards I'd ever seen. Full on robbery.
     
  11. Beenie

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    Guess your not a fan of Bradley's 140 lb accomplishments?
     
  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 140, Bradley had an excellent resume.
    At 147, Bradley hasn't proven a thing.
     
  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I shouldn't have been so dismissive, I apologize. I see it like this...

    I think Canelo would have to hope for a perfect flush KO, otherwise he just loses by easy UD.

    Marg is too basic/slow/telegraphed to win more than 3 rounds IMO. Floyd figures him out early and controls the ring, wide UD.
     
  14. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    just a question, aside from pac and floyd, who's ranks higher than bradley in WW?
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're joking right? Is that even a legitimate question? Plenty.

    The better question is: what has Bradley done to be ranked highly at 147? Beating a 40 year old Marquez doesn't do it for me... Neither is going to war with Provo, who is a gate keeper/non-title holder a division below WW.