Pac/FMJ ATG Ranking now?

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  1. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    There you go posting after you lost a perm ban bet lol
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/where-...-all-time-boxing-greats-062113734-boxing.html


    Those polled were HBO broadcasters Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman; Showtime's Al Bernstein and Steve Farhood; freelance broadcaster and Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame founder Rich Marotta; promoter Lou DiBella; matchmaker Chris Middendorf; Associated Press national columnist Tim Dahlberg; retired AP boxing writer Ed Schuyler Jr.; boxing historian and writer Cliff Rold.

    The link is what the boxing announcers believe the rankings were before the fight began. The top 25 are as follows:


    1. SRR
    2.Henry Armstong
    3. Ali
    4. Greb
    5.Duran
    T-6 Louis
    T-6 Willie Peg
    8 SRL
    9 Benny Leonard
    10 Sam Langford
    11 Archie Moore
    12 Ezzard Charles
    13 Joe Gans
    14 Barney Ross
    15 Jack Johnson
    16 Pernell Whitaker
    17 Gene Tunney
    18 Jack Dempsey
    19 Floyd
    T-20 Hagler
    T-20 Tony Canzoneri
    T-22 Pac
    T-22 Charley Burley
    T24 JCC
    T24 Sanchez


    So with this in mind, I gotta think that Floyd's probably somewhere around the Whitaker - Barney Ross range.
     
  3. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I don't get how people put Duran ahead of Sugar Ray Leonard truth be told.

    Give it ten to fifteen years, then get people to make this list. I guarantee you Floyd will be in the Top 10 in almost everyones estimation. Just too many achievements not to be and the fact that he ended up beating another guy most rank op 20 says it all.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So are we really going to put Floyd ahead of Pacquiao???

    Pacquiao has vcitories of prime versions of Barrera, Marquez, Hatton, Cotto, Sasukul, Ledwaba, Margarito, etc.

    Floyd has victories over prime versions of Corrales, Hatton, Canelo (arguable), Maidana.

    Something doesn't add up there.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran's body of work is why he's ranked ahead of SRL. If SRL had fought maybe 20-25 more fights and won 90% of them, I'd have no problem ranking him ahead of Duran. And Duran beat someone ranked 8th and nearly beat someone ranked 20th who was one of the best middle weights ever and in fact in today's era of 12 rounds he would have actually won. (not that I would have agreed with the decision) So if beating someone ranked 20 says it all, how about someone ranked 8th, that says even more.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    For one Duran was the smaller man and went up a full weight class to beat the bigger man.

    That's boss. Like Damn.
     
  7. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only ones I can see above Mayweather:

    Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Duran, Charles, Ali, SRL, Benny Leonard, Langford.

    Of course you could argue he ranks above some of those fighters.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do agree that he's not far off from making that elusive top 10 list, not sure if he'll get there, but it could be close. If he goes undefeated and beats GGG at 154 I think he'd crack that list, maybe even make it to the 7-8th spot.
     
  9. Brandish

    Brandish Active Member Full Member

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    top 3

    1. Ray Robinson:deal
    2. henry Armstrong:deal
    3. Floyd mayweather JR:deal
     
  10. p4p_kid

    p4p_kid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    id say floyd #15 and Manny #18
     
  11. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Yes and easily.
     
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty good list. I like the way you excluded the most overrated boxer in history (Jofre)
     
  13. reanthefox

    reanthefox Active Member Full Member

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    floyd has actually regressed after a tainted victory.

    juiced up floyd vs. non-juiced up pacman, who got his blood drained non stop, still won 8-4 in my book.

    made floyd his ***** and had the ***** running for 12 rds.


    50pct pacman vs. 200pct floyd.
    7th div vs. 4th div.
    pac proved he is levels above floyd. not debatable now.

    pac is prolly craking top 5 now.
     
  14. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How could you forget Cotto? Judah?
     
  15. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Something like this is what I believe also. He really doesn't have much left to prove except maybe win a title at MW which he could easily do by beating Cotto or GGG.

    If he beats GGG then it is without doubt he's not only in the top 3 but in the top 2 with people comparing him to SRR because he would also be undefeated.