Coming Soon - In the Ring With Jack Johnson Part II: The Reign

And me

 

Leaving out your racists statement there is something in Italian DNA that makes them cheat, I'd like to point out that I have been here many years and never said anything derogatory about any ethnicity. You have. Your baseless acquisition is just that. Mine has truth to it.

Moving on a writer's job it to tell the truth, not mask it or omit it. It Adams chooses he can offer a both sides of the coin story.

Oddly enough you agree with me that Johnson was a real @ss hat and had trouble wherever he went. He was also a disrespectful punk in the ring when things were going his way, a wife beater, a pimp, and a possible participant in fixed fights or pre-arranged fights. Oh, he fouled more than the general media would want you to know as well.

Quick question Klompton, name me 1 great heavyweight who ducked his three-four best title opponents, was KO'd quick by a man under 175, pounds, drew with a pillow punching man under 170 pound in a title match, was floored by a blown up 5'9" middle weight in a title match, drew with a journeyman in a title fight, and blatantly lied numerous times about boxing.

I can name zero. Can you give me one?

PS: Height plays a huge role in boxing. There’s a reason why Burn’s at 5’7” and the man with a longer reach could not tag a much taller Johnson with head shots. Smith was taller than Johnson, and obviously had the power to hurt him. To quote Smith from the book In This Corner “ and he never forgot that “, referring to the punch that knocked Johnson silly.

 

This post does not need any embellishment from me.

 

I ordered but $50+ is excessive. I get that its a big book but still...

 

You dont have to make blatantly racist statements, your posts illustrate your leanings as well if you posted a picture of yourself in your KKK uniform.

Are you saying Adam didnt? Try reading the books before commenting on them.

Where we disagree is that despite his failings as a person I still consider Johnson a great fighter and a head to head nightmare for almost anyone. You cant seperate your personal bias from your "professional" criticism.

Your hero Jack Dempsey could easily come close to or top all of those qualifications. People in glass houses.

Like I said. Ive seen them in action together with the gloves on. Im quite comfortable with the conclusion that Johnson would have whipped Gunboat Smith's ass to the queens taste and while Smith may have said 60 years later that Johnson never forgot getting dropped by him Im sure Johnson would have had his own take on things had he been given the opportunity to discuss it.

 

Thats why I bought it... BUT I wouldnt go comparing it to the cost of Mayweather-Pac because that wasnt worth it even if they had met 6 years ago much less last week. Oh, and I didnt buy that lol. I just want to see it do well and $50 may be prohibitive. I know you would have had to have taken a hit in the printing costs because we use the same printer so you have to weigh whether the added cost per copy will justify the potential loss in sales. My guess is it would since boxing is a nitch sport now and boxing history is an even smaller nitch. The people who will buy it would likely buy it regardless of the added $10. The people who wont would probably have waited until it was gifted or on sale anyway.

 

My job sometimes involves finding books for college students. Tell a student that their 880 page, exhaustively researched and illustrated, specialized-topic hardcover is selling for '$50+', you'd better carry smelling salts -- they'll be fainting with relief and joy.

 

Ordered mine tonight. Willard was bigger so it might run to £40:think

 

I'm not here to talk about my ethnicity or religion, but know this. The KKK would not like me at all. If you knew me you never even mention that, but you don't. So go F' yourself. I have never said one thing to upset any ethic group here. However you sir have soiled the board with your comment on Italians. .:deal

No I'm saying writers are often a bit kind to their subject material and can leave out less than flattering material. Ward's book did not turn away from the truth. What Adam writes is up to him.

How can a champion be great if he ducks his best 3-4 contenders?!

You ignored or did not answer my question! Name me one great heavyweight who was KTFO by a supper middle weight, drew with one in a title fight ( Some primary sources felt he lost ) , and was floored by another in a title fight?

Add in some " arrangements " a draw to a journeyman as champion, and a key loss to Hart in what was a billed as a title elimination fight vs Jeffries.

Then factor in his best wins came over a 156 pound man, a very green Jeannette who sometimes had a losing record when they meet and teenaged Sam McVey. All of these facts are on my side. I'm correct.

My hero? Um, I'm not a big Dempsey fan you moron, and feel he ducked both Wills and Greb and have said so here many times. I think he had to come back to beat Brennan, and see some things on film that make me wonder how good he would have been outside of his era. I also think Dempsey win over Sharkey deserves a big *

You have seen a sparring session. When was the date? Odd you are using a sparring session to prove something but quickly disregard mine where Smith knocked Johnson silly. Fair and balanced stuff right here!

As stated GB Smith was the #1 or #2 man for a while. He just wasn't a white hope, though he did beat many opponents that Johnson gave title shots to.

 

Excessive compared to what? Paq vs Mayweather? That was excessive in terms of cost. Adam's books have a lot of positive reviews. No one went out of their way to say the cost of your book was excessive. Just saying...

 

Which ETHIC group did you have in mind?
Smith was the original White Hope you dough nut!
Oh those SUPPER MIDDLEWEIGHTS AGAIN!

Serious suggestion keep your phobic hatred for your own dismal threads and let Adam promote his book in peace.

Save your pennies , buy it ,get educated and come back and post.
Who knows you might finally have something worth reading!