Floyd Mayweather and Wladimir Klitschko, top 2 p4p fighters for certain now.

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Money and Dr.SteelHammer

    Not a big fan of Wlad but the dude is for sure the #2 p4p fighter now.

    :banana:banana:mj:mj:nod:nod

    Both these guys share the same fate, both are hated for their styles.

    But these two men just win, they keep winning. We gotta respect that.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    No argument from me, although in reality, I still think Ward is the most talented.

    :smoke
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad struggled against Jennings. Jennings isn't any better than Algieri, or Rios. If Pac lost 3-5 rounds against Algieri, or Rios then you might have an argument. Pac is #2.
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Their domination is incredible I must say
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd slicker though, moves smoothly through the ring like a ballet dancer :deal
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes.

    And on an unrelated note, I was trying to find your post about "everyone who wasn't eating..." on Caparello, but couldn't locate it.

    :twisted::patsch
     
  7. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    Lack of Roman Gonzalez is shocking
     
  8. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Floyd yes Vladimir no. Both have found a style that seems very difficult to beat and are sticking to it and wont change. Cant blame them.

    Obviously Vlad has dominated his division but its not a good division at all. Looking at it as a P4P point of view Floyds skills as a boxer would transcend the divisions i dont think Vlads would what he does is very basic but against average opposition or opponants he has a good size advantage over it works.

    But thats just my perception of P4P, its a matter of opinion.
     
  9. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put them in a ring together to see who is best. We can all have a good laff when the little dirtball Floyd is sent into the third row of the crowd with Drago Klitschko lauding his victory.

    PFP is like the special olympics, making allowances for the vertically challenged. Load of shit.

    Klitschko is the #1 fighter on the planet, if you think otherwise, send your guy into the ring with him and see how he fares.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Klitschko relies so heavily on his physical advantage of height/reach though. It's hard to consider him a P4P boxer because as great as he is at utilising his advantages, if he was 6'0, he wouldn't be winning fights at HW.
     
  11. irishguy84

    irishguy84 New Member Full Member

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    it is a myth that wladimir only wins because of his physical attributes. he is very technically sound, has a gold medal with very good amateur career.

    tyson fury is taller,heavier and has longer reach
    bryant jennings had a longer reach
    kubrat pulev was heavier
    Alex Leapai was heavier
    Mariusz Wach was heavier and had longer reach
    tony thompson was same size
    Hasim Rahman was heavier and had longer reach
    Ray Austin was heavier and taller
    Jameel McCline was taller,heavier and had longer reach
    Derrick Jefferson was taller,heavier and had longer reach
    David Bostice was taller
     
  12. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you take that many inches of mayweather he wouldnt be winning either.
     
  13. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    You mistake my point.

    Wladimir Klitschko is a very astute, intelligent boxer with a great gameplan and very good fundamentals. He has a razor sharp jab, a great right hand and when he remembers to throw it, a very decent left hook.

    I'd put him in my Top 10 P4P, and I rank him very highly all time at HW, but a lot of that comes down to the fact that he has physical advantages over most of his opponents.

    The other physical advantage Wlad (and Vitali) had, was their agility and balance for their size. They move a lot quicker and with a lot more poise than anyone else their size/weight. That's a big reason why they easily beat other big fighters.

    But to say technically he's a great fighter? He's nearer the Joshua Clottey level than he is the Sugar Shane Mosley level.
     
  14. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Yes he would be, you take 6 inches off Floyd and he never goes above 122, dominates everyone down there. Floyd's also faced a lot of fighters bigger than he is and not had issues with it.

    Wladimir at 6'0 with his build would still be near HW. Wladimir doesn't use lateral movement much, he goes straight back and can afford to because he's so much taller and has more reachn than most opponents.

    Also, Wladimir panics under fire, all of his losses came because he panicked after being hit once.
     
  15. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he wouldnt be winning at welterweight though