Lol @ people who think a Boxer is STILL...

MMA fans/fighters love their "sport" because they think it makes them hard.

 

I really don't understand why mma and boxing are at war with each other to be honest. I think both are enjoyable. And boxing is one of the key components to an mma fighters base. MMA fans have the audacity to call all other combat sports horrible, they do it do wrestling, Muay Thai, kickboxing, etc... That all make up their friggen sport. And if you think MMA has over taken boxing... Premier boxing champions ratings have been the same as ufc on fox without cards of championship household names like ufc does

I hope people stop fighting. Different sports and both have a place on tv.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself! Is it bad to like both? It's like comparing apples to oranges..

I do hate it though when MMA/UFC fighters say they'd kill a boxer in seconds. Even before the MAYPAC fight, they'd be like, "Give me 5 seconds with floyd..." and all this order garbage...

umm...duh? Absolutely no one cares if they can beat up a boxer since, like it has been mentioned, is a completely different sport lol

 

Here here. Boxer wins in boxing and mma wins in mma simple as
In the street who knows so many varibles but both would batter most men out there

 

In an actual fight, all other things being equal, an MMA fighter should beat a pure boxer almost everytime.

There are simply far too many alternative techniques and strategies for a mixed martial artist to apply which a boxer cannot effectively counter. This has been proven in the ring many times. The absolute ease which Couture took care of Toney speaks for itself. The boxer will have low kicks to worry about, which are devastating against unconditioned, unprepared legs. He can't clinch, because that will end up in a wrestling/judo hold and from there to the ground. The ground game of a pure striker is frankly painful to watch.

Ironically, a boxer's best chance would be against a striking-inclined MMA fighter. It has equally been evident that even a superior MMA striker cannot trade punches with a boxer with much hope of success. I recall Aleksander Emelianenko had a couple of boxing matches against no-name brand boxers, and barely managed to s****e a win. Aleks was considered to have top-shelf striking skills back in the day.

This from somebody who likes both MMA and boxing.

 

Having said this, a boxer transitioning to MMA has an automatic striking advantage which is priceless against the right opposition. Boxing, IMHO, is a very good base to build from in order to become a complete fighter.

 

Those pitter patter sessions are NOT as easy as it looks, trust me, he's not hitting hard but he's going at a constant fast pace (try doing it non stop for say a minute). Plus he runs multiple 8 mile+ runs, 15 minute round sparring for 12 rounds. That alone is crazy. And we don't even know what he does for SC.

 

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This is what happened when a 40+ year old boxer with minimal training goes up against an ATG MMA HW in Tim Sylvia.

Brutal.

If this was Wladimir's punch and without gloves on, Tim Sylvia would have been no more there and then.

 

Most MMA fighters would be not ideal in a street fight. If anything Krav Maga > MMA when it comes to self defense. Most street fights are punching then to ground. Rarely anyone kicks. Some MMA fighters are pure kickboxers and would be horrible in a streetfight vs a pure boxer for example. Above all else the one combat discipline that reigns supreme is Brazilians Jiu Jitsu. Gracie proved he could beat monstrous men twice his size with it. The art of BJJ is to avoid being in the "red zone" within punching or kicking distance. So in a street fight the boxer comes out at the BJJ fighter and the BJJ covers his face and gets chest to chest with the boxer. From there there is no power with the punches and its all said and done there. The BJJ can break his arm standing or take him to the ground or choke him out even if hes a smaller guy.

When it comes to life or death fighting IMO its BJJ>Boxing>MMA(if you aren't a BJJ specialist)

 

This is exactly why MMA fans are so ignorant. The best two bases to have are Boxing and BJJ. Yet they hate on both as individual sports. Its a discipline that makes their sport.

 

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For a start most MMA don't hate on both sports. Where do you get that from? Yes there are some idiots online but you them for every sport.

Boxing isn't one of the two best bases. I would put Muay Thai or wrestling above it. There is no doubt wrestling is a better base.

 

Toney was a punchy old fat man who even in his prime had a very pure boxing style, he's like Mayweather, he's a great boxer but those skills wouldn't translate outside the ring, not all boxers fight like this though.