Pacs terrible performance opens the door for Khan to shine

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by madballster, May 12, 2015.


  1. Kingofchins

    Kingofchins Member Full Member

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    Cotto had nothing that would trouble FMJ tbh, he was fighting at the wrong weight and just coming off a total pasting at the hands of Pac.

    Canelo again his main skill is his boxing skills which only really shine when faces someone rather flat footed (Kirkland,Angulo,Hatton etc)
    Add that to the fact he was badly struggling to make the weight FMJ admittedly made him fight at.

    Pac is horrible at cutting of the ring he never stood a chance even prime Pac can't beat someone like FMJ who has mastered the "run and hold" tactics.

    The reason I say Khan will cause him more problems is firstly, his reach. With his reach FMJ would be forced to step out of his conformt zone and engage Khan, Secondly Pac WAS super fast now he is just "fast" Khan is two levels above Pac in terms of hand speed. Thirdly Khan on the night would be much bigger and stronger than FMJ so he can't just hold every time someone throws a flurry as he did with Pac.

    I personally would rate FMJ much high on the TBE list if he fought and beat people like Khan,Trout or Lara as those guys will take him out of his run and hold comfort zone.
     
  2. JamesG1986

    JamesG1986 Active Member Full Member

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    I think Khan would be an interesting matchup for Floyd, his length, speed would give him some problems early on
     
  3. SuperBoxer

    SuperBoxer New Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights. Pac's style was made for Floyd. On the other hand, Khan's style is almost like kryptonite for Floyd. Khan has faster hand speed, quicker jabs, taller height, similarly long reach, similarly high punch accuracy, great control of range, is a similar Olympic-style point-fighter, boxes from the outside, relies on the back-foot, uses similar hit & run tactics, can counter-punch, knows how to deal with counter-punchers, can clinch at the right times, and has never been outboxed on points. And Khan's own kryptonite, his limited punch resistance against hard punchers, isn't something Floyd can capitalize on since he isn't a hard puncher himself and hasn't had a legit KO in 8 years. It would come down to a pure boxing match between two technical boxers who have never been outboxed before. That is what will make it a close competitive fight.
     
  4. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True

    If Khan gets knocked out, its a better fight than the last one

    If Khan wins, its a better fight than the last one

    If Mayweather wins a tough decision its a better fight than the last one

    Its unlikely that this fight would be as boring
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    If Cotto was at the wrong weight he wouldn't have destroyed Foreman(Undefeated WBA Champion), Mayorga and Concreto. In addition to that, when a fighter can't make a certain weight anymore, he/she is forced to move up, which automatically makes the new weight the right one. Cotto couldn't make 147 anymore, so he moved up therefore making 154 his new healthier weight.

    As far as Cotto's style is concerned, he has the right style to trouble Mayweather as he already proved it by being the first since De La Hoya to bust Mayweather up and make him work his very best to prevail. Every time Mayweather tried to take time or a round off, Cotto was all over him forcing him to work. He obviously didn't win, but didn't brutally/embarrassingly lose either. It's absolutely ludicrous to suggest that he had "nothing" when the fight is available for you to watch and judge properly. Even after the fight Mayweather appeared to be distressed and in serious physical pain in the locker room. That doesn't happen against an opponent who has "nothing".

    Even though I do agree and always said that the Catchweight wasn't doing Alvarez any favors, he simply lacked the style to trouble Mayweather. Anyone that poses in there will get eaten up by Mayweather's style. Mayweather's style thrives on comfort and rhythm and if an opponent poses and allows him to relax, Mayweather's style will automatically eat him up and make an absolute mockery out of him in the process. Alvarez posed so much, as I said he would based on his style in my prediction prior to the fight, that Mayweather became comfortable and relaxed enough to literally be the aggressor at times and pummel him at the ropes.

    Pacquiao is horrible at cutting off the ring?, seriously man?. Are you trolling or plain clueless?. An ATG who got this far can't cut off the ring?. A fighter who literally relied on cutting off the ring to pummeling ATG quality fighters like Morales x2, Barrera x2, Marquez x2, DLH...etc can't cut off the ring?. This is one of the most idiotic statements I've ever read here. Want to see someone that really can't cut off the ring?, go watch Margarito chasing opponents.

    You're right about Khan's reach and speed, but how good is reach anyway when you can't use it to the maximum?. Since when was Khan known to using his reach advantage to the maximum?. Are you seriously saying that Khan, who only recently is celebrating the newly adopted ability to hold on when hurt, is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Pacquiao, Cotto and Alvarez were?. :lol: No offense man, but that's just pure comedy. Watch for Khan to get countered easily every time he opens up. While his speed is overwhelmingly hard to catch, his predictable approaches(low ring IQ) will leave him wide open to counters all night.
     
  6. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    people underestimating khan just because of his chin.....this fight will surprise many
     
  7. SuperBoxer

    SuperBoxer New Member Full Member

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    Yes. For the last two years, boxing experts like Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Paulie Malignaggi, James Gogue and Al Bernstein have been saying Amir Khan would be the biggest threat to Floyd Mayweather.

    Devon Alexander is an effective counter-puncher with long reach and skillful ring IQ, which he used effectively to completely shut out Maidana, winning every round against him (which even Mayweather failed to do against Maidana in both their fights). And yet when Alexander tried to time and counter Khan, he kept failing and missing all night, losing every round to him. Khan's ring IQ has improved significantly under Virgil Hunter, and as a result, Khan has become a very hard opponent to time and counter. Not only does he punch fast, but he does so with high accuracy, and he keeps moving out of range after he punches, and also throws his own counters. Like Malignaggi said, Khan's control of range makes it very hard to counter him or outbox him on points.
     
  8. Scar

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    I could care less what they say. My opinion stands and I explained exactly why based on Amir Khan's actual style.


    Devon Alexander is a carefully picked opponent because he lacks KO power, just like others were. Molina was also landing the same exact counter hook Garcia landed on Khan over and over but nothing was happening, why?, because Molina lacks power to make that punch count. What he used against Maidana was speed, that's what helped him totally overwhelm Maidana and outscore him. He was fighting as basic as can be yet his speed regularly kept Maidana confused and off. The only improvement added with Virgin Hunter was Khan's newly adopted ability to hold on when hurt or in trouble, that's the only new addition. Don't be deceived by this "new trainer" parade because the same nonsense happened when he moved up to 140. Wonder why even his next opponent lacks power?.