Marvin Hagler was a defensive genius

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  1. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But we ask this of other boxers , it there a double standard.
     
  2. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With so many weightclasses and paper belts around now ofcourse you can move up and down weights winning titles like it ain't nothing without having to fight the best in the division. Maybe we would have seen Hagler move up had anyone actually gave a **** about super middle back then, or up to light heavy if he was gifted a vacant WBO title shot against some tomato can without having to fight Spinks.

    And there is no "coincidence" of Hagler being past it at the end of his career, use your eyes and watch the fight I posted then watch Hagler-Mugabi, if you can't see the difference then that's down to your own lack of knowledge of boxing because it is night and day.


    "Level of prime Michael Spinks" None of the fighters they moved up to fight were anywhere near as good or as dangerous as Spink, one of the very best 175lbers ever, smack bang in his prime for most of Hagler's reign.
     
  3. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spinks is arguably the 3rd best LHW ever true but those guys did move up,Roy too heavy weight . This is no disrespect too Marvin I'm just pointing out some boxers are held to a higher standard for bull**** reasons.
     
  4. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this thread is completely idiotic and OP is talking out of his a-ss. hagler was a face first fighter when he fought both hearns and leonard, just jumping in and taking 7 punches to land one, that was his style...... that's why his chin is spoken so highly of.......... hearns was the slickest fighter in the fab-four followed by leonard and duran. hagler was the least technically sound out of the fab four. hearns almost knocked hagler the f$ck out with an uppercut, and he gave him a cut on his forehead.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    WTH? LOL

    Hagler's style was that of a methodical boxer-puncher for the great majority of his career. Barry Tompkins called him a "surgeon" during the first Hamsho fight and that sounds about right. He was a good defensive fighter, not great IMO, but had solid parrying skills and effective head movement. He started to slow down and become easier to hit late in his career, the Roldan fight was a fight in which people afterwards were wondering if Hagler was declining because he was getting hit more often, and it was against the slow Roldan.

    His first loss, in which Watts got a gift decision, was one fight in which Hagler displayed really good upper body movement and made Boogaloo miss a lot.

    Hearns was super difficult to box from the outside, so Hagler had to take the fight to him and close the distance. Even more important than that was the fact that Hearns was most deadly when he had distance to get leverage on his right hand. His most devastating right hand KOs, Cuevas, Duran and Shuler, all came at a distance where he got more leverage on his right hand. It was tougher for Hearns to do this when the distance was closed. Leonard was no easy task either to outbox, so Hagler had to bring the fight to him and be more aggressive, and even then, people (including his trainer) said years later that he wasn't aggressive enough.

    Hagler was arguably the most technically sound out of the fab 4. The only real bad thing you can say about him technically was that he had a relatively poor straight left hand for such a well-rounded fighter. He wasn't as physically gifted as the rest. All of them in their primes were certainly quicker of hand than Hagler in his prime. Duran and Leonard had better reflexes and were even more fluid than him. Hagler also lacked the freakish power of a Hearns, he had heavy hands but no single punch was anywhere near Hearns's straight right hand.

    Hearns was the least slick out of all of them. He certainly didn't have the head and upper body movement of a young Duran, or Leonard. Hagler had better head movement and parrying skills than Hearns. Hearns was less polished than the others.
     
  6. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    And you're still as bitter as you always have been.

    What a surprise coming from *****ality. :lol:
     
  7. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Prime Hagler would UD GGG imo. The one who fought mugabi would have difficulties.
     
  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You must missed nearly all of his fights, in particular the Hearnds affair. The man nailed many times in many fights.

    Nice trolling though. Quite entertaining...