Who could have beaten prime RJJ at 160 of 168

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  1. Nawfal

    Nawfal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    of all time any time

    i dont think he could have been beaten at those weights
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Head to head, I hold Jones in very high esteem at 160 and 168. Have him number one at both weights to be honest with you.

    Who would have the best chances? At 160 - Marvin Hagler and Carlos Monzon. Hagler because of his skills combined with his chin, mental strength, and ability to turn a boxing match into a street fight. Monzon due to his height, jab, right hand, and exceptional timing. Maybe most importantly though was his ability to offset his opponent's gameplans and take them out of their rhythm. Jones UD is my pick in both of those fights, however. At 168 - Ezzard Charles, perhaps Gerald McClellan and Nigel Benn (due to their power, although I favor Roy over them very handily).
     
  3. DaHead242

    DaHead242 Active Member Full Member

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    Ray Robinson at 160.... Hagler would have a shot.... Monzon had a good jab that could off set roys speed. CM would have a shot. no one at 168
     
  4. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon
    SRR
    Hagler
    Emile Griffith

    would all have good chances
     
  5. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    I would actually take Hagler by SD or close UD over RJJ at 160. His mental strength, excellent boxing skills from both stances, stamina, and chin surely would have given RJJ problems all night long. Hagler would not have let RJJrs freak physical abilities offset his superior boxing skills, and theres no way anyone ko's a prime Hagler. Just my opinion. Otherwise I would give Monzon a 40% chance at 160. At 168 RJJ is my #1, and I honestly don't think anyone has more than a 30% chance of beating him
     
  6. h2hkiller

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    I would have liked to see Burley-RJJ. Man, Compubox would have slow night for that fight.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    At 160 I think Hagler, Monzon, Nunn, Valdez, and guys like McCallum could possibly beat him. Maybe guys like Zale and Briscoe could give him trouble, but it's hard to see someone who did Hopkins the way he did get favored largely over.

    At 168 I would certainly not favor anyone.
     
  8. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At 160? I'd favor Carlos Monzon over him, possibly Hagler too. Noone whose currently fighting though.

    168? Nada.
     
  9. TheGrimReaper

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  10. Sweet Pea

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    His best at 168 was against Benn, seeing as he only fought there a few times inconsistently and only once in a title fight(that being against Benn).
     
  11. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I don't like comparing old vs new because the era is just too far apart.

    So lets say from 1985 onwards, who could beat RJJ Jr at 160-168? Prime for Prime on both of their best nights? No one.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    1985 onwards? Are you trying to tell me you consider guys like Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns are primitive?
     
  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Son of a *****. Not again:lol:
     
  14. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Yes, they are. There are no boxers from their era still boxing at a high enough level with which to make comparisons on how their fighting style and skillset would match up with todays age.

    It is like trying to compare Mark Spitz to Pieter Van Hoogenband. There is no point, they are competing in completely different generations.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Are you ****ing kidding me? Leonard and Hearns primative?