Did Tyson have a weak pain threshold??

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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Not to mention battered into submission by that world renowned ATG Kevin McBride.:rofl:rofl
     
  2. RayRobbo

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    I think it's more his mental strength which is obviously not comparable to the likes of Marciano, Ali, Holyfield etc. he quit mentally and in my mind tried to look for easy way out of fights if it got too hard for him. Hence his crying and over-dramatisation sometimes. Looking back he never had to dig very deep in his career as the aforementioned did. No knock, just didn't have it in him. Few do.
     
  3. UFC2015

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    No he did not have a weak pain threshold
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He may have although he may have not....
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    obviously he did not,he was freking HW champ of the world, and not a fake one.
     
  6. First Round KO

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    Whenever Mike got put down he stayed down, most fighters have had to get up off the floor to win at some point in their career, but never Iron Mike.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    u r referring to the one time he got put down pre prison, yeh?


    great scientific ****ysis there.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    I think Tyson's pain was mentally more than anything post prison.

    I think the two Holyfield fights caused a lot of angst and frustration. The way Holyfield tied him up and man handled him in close took away all his mid range potency and without it he was just another puncher.

    Holyfield was the boss in there, firing off punches with Tyson when Tyson entered his favorite mid range. He'd punch Tyson back or simply tie him up and manhandle him, often roughing him up in the process. Tyson had a poor inside game and was no threat there at all to Holyfield. He easily took whatever singular efforts Tyson landed and basically gave him very little chance of success.

    I believe in the rematch that it was evident to Tyson that these same tactics had him seeing GroundHog Day very early on and frustration boiled over in a big way. He knew he could not offset Holyfield's strength, will and tactics and went ballistic with angst.

    I think some of the scenes the OP projected showed the mental frustration of Tyson when things were no longer going his way. In his first career he was bowling opponents over like ten pins and winning was mostly very very easy. He had it all his own way.

    Later career however, fighting the likes of Holyfield and Lewis things were nothing like they were first career and this was hard for him to deal with and accept. He'd still hang in at this career point, striving for that one big fight turning punch but they just weren't coming forth.

    That's my take anyway, after a great deal of thought and rewatching some rounds. When things stopped rolling his way he had trouble dealing with it.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    Hard to question his pain threshold considering the beatings he took from both Douglas and Lewis. In Lewis' case he was simply outclassed and really his only option was to quit or take a prolonged beating and he choose the later.
     
  10. UFC2015

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    Well Douglas beat a more prime version of Tyson compared to Lenni.
     
  11. UFC2015

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    Nah, i think his frustration in the Holyfield fight had more to do with this

    [YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiSXDzMc1TI[/YT]
     
  12. MURK20

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    Tyson really impressed me with his bouts against Razor Ruddock. They were killing each other to the body and head. Tyson was a real gladiator.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes but even in the Lewis fight he was screaming out in pain whilst having his cut tended to.
     
  14. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure Tyson was cut for the first time against Holyfield. The cut was a massive factor in the fight, it's as though the fight was drained out of him. Not long after he was dropped by the body ****.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Maybe, but he could have quite much earlier than in the 8th round and I doubt anyone would have complained since he was taking massive shots throughout the fight.