Harsher penalties for failure to make weight

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by billy nelson, Jun 14, 2015.


  1. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    This is becoming far to regular in the sport now and the penalties are very poor, i suggest that if a fighter doesn't make the weight then they shouldn't be able to fight for any form of world title or domestic title ( dependent what level there at ) for 12 months and get much heavier fines, its very unprofessional and in a normal workplace could be classed has gross misconduct.
    There really needs to be tougher guildlines by our board, because all that's happening is the fighters in question are cheating there opponent who's trained hard to do the weight and ultimately cheating the public who thought they were paying for a title fight.
     
  2. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Walters had to pay his opponent 40k and lost belt......id say that was fair?

    what was not fair was getting in ring at 145 for a 126 fight....this issue is driving me mad
     
  3. tjf81

    tjf81 Active Member Full Member

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    Fair point. I remeber Broner weighing in miles over the limit when he fought Escobedo. He was massive compared to him but obviously the other boy put himself in harms way to get a decent pay day. It is dangerous and shows a complete lack of respect for the fans the sport and especially their opponent.
     
  4. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    i disagree, why should one fighter be professional do the weight correctly yet the other gets a fine, gets stripped and will prob get a straight shot at his old title or another title, not fair
    Same day weight in even 12 hours before the time there due jn the ring would be good
     
  5. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe the IBF have it correct in that you can only gain a certain amount of weight post weigh in, means that fighters have to fight close to their natural weight as they cant rehydrate by 20lb, therefore fighters wont weigh in over the limit? I agree though, punishment needs to be more harsh, Walters was going to step up so why does it matter to him if he is vacated. 40K? That's really not a lot to him also, maybe receive no purse from the fight, 6 month ban from boxing or inability to ever box for that organisations title again?
     
  6. big_daddy

    big_daddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about the likes of cotto getting opponents to fight well below the weight limit for their title? Far worse that IMO, can excuse being a little overweight but not that
     
  7. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Maybe if you were the fighter that's been professional dieted, trained hard ect to make the correct weight you'd think differently
    Heavier fines and bans from fighting for titles is the only way forward, however organisations are greedy and it won't happen
     
  8. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    The present one-off weigh in the day before must go. It allows huge rehydration and consequently one fighter can be much bigger in the ring, with consequent safety risks for the smaller man.

    More weighing ...maybe daily...before fights with strict target weights that must be met.
    A weight check before they enter ring too with only a small say three pound discrepancy in the boxers weights allowable.
    Much stricter limits.
     
  9. big_daddy

    big_daddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    7lb I reckon is fair/fine, weigh in the day before, 4lb the morning after and 7lb just before
     
  10. big_daddy

    big_daddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can be as professional as you like but sometimes your body just doesn't allow it, giant difference between being a few oz/1lb over like linares initially and being 3/4lbs over, plus ridiculous draining of someone like geale is far more harmful to fighters
     
  11. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Something needs doing regards this , weve had many a chat on this subject Billy about the sculduggery and antics that some boys have done over the years to make the weight , do the weight properly theres no issue , do it wrongly your lifes in danger , fines etc need stopping , fail the scales the fights off and your purse is witheld and your opponent still gets paid seems fair to me
     
  12. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree, I do not think people think much about the opponent who is at a disadvantage, the fighter who has made the weight has struggled, boiled down and sacrificed. Weight limits are there for a reason.

    And you're right, the paying public get cheated.

    A fine isn't really helping the fighter who made weight correctly and I believe most of the time this is a completely calculated risk on the overweight fighters side.

    A ban for any title fights for a period of time is a good idea.
     
  13. big_daddy

    big_daddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Re the title fight ban it would pretty much only apply to that sanctioning board/governing body eg if floyd came in overweight for a wbc strap and the wbc banned him for a year from title fights I doubt the wba would ban him as well
     
  14. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Completely agree.
     
  15. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Something needs done, I would suggest the fight being stopped from taking place and the person who fails at the scales cannot fight again until he pays the guy he was scheduled to fight his purse for the fight