How good was Nigel Benn?

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  1. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    more exciting than great
     
  2. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    nigel was a warrior, steve collins beat a shell of the real benn. You only have to watch the fights to see that. The second fight, nigel quit on his stool. QUIT ON HIS STOOL AGAINST COLLINS??? he gets knocked out of the ring by mclellan, who himself was a fantastic fighter and ten times more powerful and brutal than collins, but climbs back in and has it with him! the benn that quit against collins was like i already said, a shell of the fighter he was pre-mclellan. To suggest anything else is pure crap. He had lost to sugar boy malinga before he even fought collins.

    collins was a good fighter, and when calzaghe was made his mandatory challenger a year later he shat himself and retired rather than fight calzaghe. I dont think Benn would have done anything like that.

    Also, when was collins ever in the wars that benn was in? you only have to look at nigels movement and reflexes against collins to see that he had nothing left. Compare it to the Mclellan fight and see the difference. Nigel was and always will be a legend.
     
  3. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch

    what the **** would that have added to his career at the time,he wanted roy jones and roy jones only,when he was given a mandatory fight against some unknown kid from wales he didnt want none of it because there was nothing there for him,get yourself sorted and stop talking ****.
     
  4. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    ha ha come on mate. you are looking through green tinted specs. im irish myself so i dont have an agenda, but lets just say after calzaghe battered his mate delaney he wanted no part of it. and as for roy jones, who didnt want to fight him? benn was calling out jones, and calzaghe has been doing it for years and has only maybe secured a fight against him now!! the examples you used of collins great fights? pyatt??? do me a favour. if you can honestly in your heart tell me that collins beat a peak or anywhere near peak benn its you who is talking ****, senior member or not!!

    like calzaghe rightly said, if they had fed collins another craig cummins (who dropped him too by the way) he wouldnt have retired. If your telling me calzaghe was more unkown than him then you should stop watching boxing.
     
  5. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    and also, i have just noticed your avatar...duddy ko pavlik? yes you should actually stop watching boxing..!!
     
  6. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who the **** made this personal mate,go **** yourself arsehole.
    im a fan of duddy,ill sport whatever i want on my sig,it doesnt matter if i dont actually think that he would ko pavlik it called a bita craic mate so maybe you should wise up and calm down you humourless *****.
    so tell me,why once collins dropped his belt didnt he return to the ring with a pushover,why instead did he retire after going to america and calling out rjj?i said that to you about calzaghe,it was risk reward nonsensical,he didnt have anything else to prove and just wanted a superfight.the fact is benn was still dangerous in those fights with collins,i never said he was primed but he was still a competitor and collins dealt with all benn had to throw pretty handily,for you to come on here and start slandering me is a joke mate when all i was trying to do was talk boxing,how about you grow up and get a ****ing grip mate.
     
  7. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    come on man. I exposed you well and truly. Now you have to swear and jump up and down.
    i think its you who needs to get a grip. (1) you have very limited and biased knowledge of boxing (2) you have to resort to swearing on a keyboard via the internet (3) you are a "tick cont"

    Number 4, maybe you should go to Dublin and ask roddy where steve is so you can meet him and see what a "nice" bloke he is. I used to fight out of the peacock in london and a couple of my former sparring partners have had the displeasure to work for him. Notably before the second eubank fight. Like i have already said, and will say again because you cant take it in...deep breath.

    Benn was a shell. That's the end of it. And a peak Benn would have battered him. Collins was a decent enough fighter who was lucky to have come along once the real operators had retired or were on the way down. Your calzaghe argument is bollocks because after he won the title from eubank, calzaghe was immediately a household name. Why then didnt collins come out of retirement and get his belt back?

    a superfight no, but maybe a "noice payday" in the manner of how he described the second Benn fight.

    now, if you have something intelligent to say then I will reply again, but dont come on here giving it large and calling people pricks and swearing. Its easily done. Now run along and think of something worth saying.

    cheerio loverboy.x
     
  8. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    great,a true ring legend,cant say enough about him,one of my fave fighters.
     
  9. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Benn TKO5 Pavlik
     
  10. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    TKO? more like Pavliks head flies into the crowd and caught by his girlfriend
     
  11. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I was trying to be nice.:rofl
     
  12. nfj

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    two good posts mate .fare play to ya:good
     
  13. charliesharkey

    charliesharkey Member Full Member

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    Exciting rather than exceptional. Blew himself out too easily for my taste. Loved watching him though. Bit of a nerve-shredder.
     
  14. greengloves

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    you exposed me well and truly?how exactly we have two opposing views that i would say contradict eachother,but to expose is a whole different matter,both of us have cited specualtion as to why collins didnt fight calzaghe although the more reputable speculation is that of he couldnt be bothered fighting a wee welsh boy when a fight with roy jones couldnt be made after he'd travelled to america and publically called him out.have i ever spoke of collins' personality,i've never had the pleasure of the man's company and am certainly not speaking of how nice a guy he was or wasn't i'm talking his boxing career into account.
    to categorically say that collins would have been 'destroyed' by a prime benn,although not impossible is rather optimistic,for example a prime benn got decisively beaten by watson who was well beaten by mccallum who collins went the distance with,i know i hate the abc scenario but its the closest thing to knowing their primes that we know and at that we could even argue that collins did not reach his peak until after the mccallum fight.
    i think that collins' inability to fight calzaghe or anyone else for that matter shows his unwant to fight again,although calzaghe was a name he still wasnt a household name until this decade,to say it would have been the money spinner that a eubank,benn or roy jones fight would have been is crazy.
    furthermore,do you not feel that their respective performances over eubank can become comparable,at the end of the day,eubank was not too far removed from his prime when he fought collins,and although it was a close fight collins got the decision,i think that you have shown yourself to be slightly biased against collins due to his unpleasant personality and claim that he would have been 'destroyed' by benn,but in reality looking back it would be hard to agree with this and instead we'd probably be looking at a very close rough fight that could go either way.
    see you later honey bunch xxxxxx lots of love
     
  15. vitesse349

    vitesse349 Active Member Full Member

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    ok dreamboat..we will have to agree to disagree. Part of you knows i am right, but thats ok.

    i forgive you. x